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Nolan Nawrocki at it again.

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Assuming his sources are legit, Nawrocki needs to consider that the opinions he's getting from scouts and team reps could be nothing more than a disinformation campaign hoping to turn others off prospects so they'll have a chance to get them.

Do you suppose he considers that? LOL

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Let me say this first, I don't really give a poo about this guy and this thread, but I want to say this.

Mr. Scot, you can end all this back and forth if you just link to some of his profiles that destroy first round talent the same way he tries to destroy Cam and Geno.

Show the "fake smile" "lazy" "etc" on a white prospect (well a couple) and the thread is basically nullified and you are vindicated in your opinion.

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Let me say this first, I don't really give a poo about this guy and this thread, but I want to say this.

Mr. Scot, you can end all this back and forth if you just link to some of his profiles that destroy first round talent the same way he tries to destroy Cam and Geno.

Show the "fake smile" "lazy" "etc" on a white prospect (well a couple) and the thread is basically nullified and you are vindicated in your opinion.

I have the print versions of the books and can quote from there (later, got a ten hour shift ahead) but I'll also see what's linkable. RG3s profile is linked within the thread if you wanna see a positive example.

I can tell you from memory that the negatives for Jimmy Clausen are extremely similar to the negatives for Newton (ironically enough). Ryan Mallett was also ripped as immature, selfish, etc.

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Clausen's profile I found, though not in official version. Just reprinted on another message board so linking is kinda pointless. The profile pages on the PFW website are long gone. Cut and paste makes it easier on me though. Saves me from having to type out the whole thing. If anyone else has a linkable version, be my guest.

Negatives: Too manufactured-has a high effort delivery. Tends to hop in the pocket and is not much of a scrambling threat-can be flustered by the rush and takes too many sacks. Has a tendency to overstride when he goes deep, lowering his release point, and has to put his entire body into the throw and chuck it like it's a javelin. Puts too much air underneath the deep ball and launches some rainmakers. Inconsistent deep accuracy- was 0-for-7 throwing to his deep right in five games charted the past two years. Has an awkward follow-through and too often falls backward after he throws. Had a strong supporting cast with receivers who attacked the ball. Has a sense of entitlement, having attended private schools, worked with private QB coaches and being sheltered by his family, who bought a house on campus so his brothers had a place to stay for every game. Arrogant-can come off as having all the answers and struggle to win a locker room. Still immature. Comes across as overly staged, scripted and disingenuous in interviews and does not have the type of presence desired in the face of a franchise. Is not a fan of the weight room.

Summary: A tough, instinctive, competitive gamer who overhauled his mechanics from the time he was a freshman, physically matured and developed into a decisive marksman. Has been groomed by Charlie Weis and has an advanced understanding of the game that will allow him to step into a starting lineup readily. However, he is cut from the same cloth as Rex Grossman and J.P. Losman, possessing an elitist attitude and selfishness that could polarize a locker room and create needless drama that may detract from a team. The defining question of his career is whether he possesses the intangibles and makeup to become a leader and win the respect of his teammates.

People forget that Clausen wasn't projected to drop to the second round. Most mocks had him going first round, some pretty high. There was a lot of shock when he fell, including this post draft blurb from PFW's Dan Parr.

Notre Dame's Jimmy Clausen — a quarterback who some bright football minds think is the best in the entire draft — fell to Carolina with the 48th overall pick. Clausen is considered to be NFL-ready after playing in a pro-style offense under the guidance of Charlie Weis at Notre Dame, but the Panthers have said Matt Moore will be their starter under center in 2010.

But hey, they'd never rip a highly touted white prospect, right?

(or maybe it's just that nobody makes a national news story of it when they do)

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Found Ryan Mallett's profile still online (link)

Positives: Has excellent size and a rocket arm to laser the ball into tight windows and effortlessly heave it 70 yards. Has a tall, over-the-top delivery and a high release point. Rare arm strength - can generate the ball velocity of a JUGS machine and make every throw without setting his feet. Rallied come-from-behind victories vs. Georgia and LSU on the road and can flip the field quickly.

Negatives: Very streaky. Makes ill-advised decisions zeroing in on receivers and overly relying on his arm strength. Needs to learn to subtract from his fastball. Is too easily rattled by pressure and struggles to sidestep the rush and maneuver in the pocket - cannot escape his own shadow. Mechanics always could be a problem (too many moving parts) - and the ball tends to sail. Inconsistent accuracy and ball placement and it diminishes greatly on the move, where he makes his receivers work too hard for the ball. Limited field vision - does not cycle through progressions. Flustered against Alabama, taking back-to-back delay-of-game penalties while looking to the sideline for the call, and could not close on big stages against Alabama or Ohio State. Received a personal foul vs. Texas A&M for dropping an elbow. Does not play with energy or demonstrate on-field command. Immature, is not a respected leader and character needs to be evaluated very closely. Does not come across well in interviews and must prove his commitment to the game.

Summary: A tall, lumbering, rocket-balling pocket passer who sprays live bullets, Mallett began to settle down as a senior and fits very well in a vertical passing attack, but issues still reside about his makeup and lack of maturity. Will not be able to live off his arm talent alone in the NFL, and his inaccuracy and shaky decision making are concerning.

And though I won't take the time to reprint it here, they suggested The Golden Calf of Bristol's best shot at the NFL was switching to another position like TE or FB.

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ESPN Insider's draft profile on Geno:

An extremely confident competitor that flashes a bit of a gunslinger mentality on tape. Weight-room work ethic is adequate but can improve. Has developed into a good leader, but the in-your-face vocal aspect of leadership at the quarterback position is not completely natural to him. First-guy-in, last-guy-out type. Tremendous passion for game and work ethic. Determined to succeed.

Mentally tough and never stops fighting. Does not take many negative plays and is willing to throw the ball away to fight another down. Remarkable TD-INT ratio (99-20) last three seasons. Is tough. Willing to hang in pocket and deliver an accurate throw in the face of pressure. Game tape junkie.

Again, Mr. Scot, the question isn't whether he ripped white QBs just as badly as bad QBs, or had good things to say about any black QBs. The question is why he continues to pass off these quotes from the NFL scouting community that are wildly misinformed. Just because a NFL scout may say something doesn't make it remotely true, as their are ignorant people in that profession like any other.

This tells me that Nawrocki doesn't do any research, he's a hack, and he is not deserving of any defense.

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Again, Mr. Scot, the question isn't whether he ripped white QBs just as badly as bad QBs, or had good things to say about any black QBs. The question is why he continues to pass off these quotes from the NFL scouting community that are wildly misinformed. Just because a NFL scout may say something doesn't make it remotely true, as their are ignorant people in that profession like any other.

This tells me that Nawrocki doesn't do any research, he's a hack, and he is not deserving of any defense.

Actually, for some here that has been the issue (granted, not for you). That's why Kurb asked for a specific example.

Reprinting a scout's comment without digging into it goes back to the methodology discussion from a prior post. Given that it's meant to be analysis, not hype, you can't just brush off negative statements. Though I'll grant if only one guy says it and a dozen other guys say the opposite, you'd have a strong case for dumping it (which I'd say is likely the case here).

This is one of those cases where I'd really like to know the source, but I have no expectation that info will come out...ever.

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