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Nolan Nawrocki at it again.

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PFW can't lick PFF's balls anyways. And at least those guys will engage detractors on Twitter and attempt to have some sort of coherency behind their grading.

Hell, even NFL.com is calling shenanigans: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000156411/article/geno-smiths-work-ethic-questioned-in-scouting-report

Pro Football Weekly used to be one of the most influential, if not the most influential draft publications. That influence has waned since the late, great Joel Buchsbaum passed, but the publication still can make waves.

It's surprising to hear Smith is not a "student of the game" and that his work ethic is suspect. This is the first we've heard of that about Smith, who has a great reputation for his film study.

Here's the way this works: Nawrocki will get hammered for publicly saying what others might privately be saying. We aren't in the position to say if his assessment is fair. But when you are attacking a player's work ethic and love of the game, you better be confident you are right.

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When you show up to your signing day in a stretch limo, you get labeled arrogant. When you get kicked out of a program for taking money for a job you never showed up to (and you were subpar to begin with), you get stuck with a few character concerns.

Geno Smith stares down receivers. Geno Smith forces the ball especially when he's behind. But tell me one solitary thing that points to Smith not controlling a huddle or being a character issue.

Really, the onus is on you as you're defending. Give one example of a top tier white QB on whose personality Nawrocki's done a hit piece without the slightest bit of evidence to back it up.

If you mean top tier in college, that's an easy one. Jimmy Clausen. He pretty much ripped Clausen a new one.

Other examples: Said Ryan Mallett was immature and made lousy decisions. Wasn't that big a fan of Jake Locker either. Had questions about Andy Dalton. Said Christian Ponder wasn't good enough to be a starter.

On the flipside, thought Colin Kaepernick had intriguing upside, and had plenty of good things to say about Josh Freeman. They did say that JaMarcus Russell was lazy though. Guess that must have been racist, huh? :unsure:

As far as the stuff you quoted above on Geno Smith, look above. I have no idea where that stuff is coming from. It runs counter to what I've heard, and as a WVU fan, I've read plenty about Smith.

My personal belief: That information is wrong, but taking the additional leap to say it's race-based? Not buying it. I've cited my evidence above as to why. Do you have any evidence to counter with>

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PFW can't lick PFF's balls anyways. And at least those guys will engage detractors on Twitter and attempt to have some sort of coherency behind their grading.

Hell, even NFL.com is calling shenanigans: http://www.nfl.com/n...scouting-report

They remember Buchsbaum too.

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If you mean top tier in college, that's an easy one. Jimmy Clausen. He pretty much ripped Clausen a new one.

Other examples: Said Ryan Mallett was immature and made lousy decisions. Wasn't that big a fan of Jake Locker either. Had questions about Andy Dalton too. Said Christian Ponder wasn't good enough to be a starter. Thought Colin Kaepernick had intriguing upside though, and had plenty of good to say about Josh Freeman.

As far as the stuff you quoted above on Geno Smith, look above. I have no idea where that stuff is coming from. It runs counter to what I've heard, and as a WVU fan, I've read plenty about Smith.

My personal belief: That information is wrong, but taking the additional leap to say it's race-based? Not buying it. I've cited my evidence above as to why. Do you have any evidence to counter with>

Again, the race aspect aside, isn't about time to stop wasting your money on the warmed over remains of Joel's legacy? Nawrocki has destroyed the publication.

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They are attributed that way here. But, I agree with you.

The only poster that really tries to make that argument is known for being a one eyed pedophile who roots for the gamecocks and Redskins

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Again, the race aspect aside, isn't about time to stop wasting your money on the warmed over remains of Joel's legacy? Nawrocki has destroyed the publication.

The draft preview comes with the subscription. PFW's a great read.

And I don't think Nawrocki's" destroyed" it. There's plenty of good analysis to find, and a pretty good amount of what I read in them proves true. Otherwise I wouldn't read it. Mind you, it's not the only one I read. I buy up pretty much every draft preview I see.

Is the PFW draft analysis what it once was? No. Are there sometimes glaring mistakes? Yep, but again, find me a draft analyst you can't say that about.

Like I said, if I stopped reading every draft guy who screwed up on a prospect, I'd have nobody left.

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I don't like serious conversation. Imma take my bizness elsewhere to a silly thread

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Just a few gems. Courtesy of Mr. Scot. Not white knighting for the guy or anything though, nope not at all.

Wrote most of that while I was off on disability last year (misdiagnosed with multiple sclerosis).

Fair amount of that was written as much because people were accusing me of racism because I wasn't sold on Newton.

And let's be honest: That's what you're looking to try and do here too. You just don't wanna come out and say it.

The accusation is pretty baseless, but hey, much easier to try and paint someone as a racist than to actually argue the facts, right? (especially when they're not on your side)

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Wrote most of that while I was off on disability last year (misdiagnosed with multiple sclerosis).

Fair amount of that was written as much because people were accusing me of racism because I wasn't sold on Newton.

And let's be honest: That's what you're looking to try and do here too. You just don't wanna come out and say it.

The accusation is pretty baseless, but hey, much easier to try and paint someone as a racist than to actually argue the facts, right? (especially when they're not on your side)

You are such a hypocrite. You talk about baseless accusations in one breath and then accuse everyone who has the audacity to disagree with your flimsy "facts" of doing nothing more than race baiting. Get a grip.

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If you mean top tier in college, that's an easy one. Jimmy Clausen. He pretty much ripped Clausen a new one.

Other examples: Said Ryan Mallett was immature and made lousy decisions. Wasn't that big a fan of Jake Locker either. Had questions about Andy Dalton. Said Christian Ponder wasn't good enough to be a starter.

On the flipside, thought Colin Kaepernick had intriguing upside, and had plenty of good things to say about Josh Freeman. They did say that JaMarcus Russell was lazy though. Guess that must have been racist, huh? :unsure:

As far as the stuff you quoted above on Geno Smith, look above. I have no idea where that stuff is coming from. It runs counter to what I've heard, and as a WVU fan, I've read plenty about Smith.

My personal belief: That information is wrong, but taking the additional leap to say it's race-based? Not buying it. I've cited my evidence above as to why. Do you have any evidence to counter with>

I've already addressed Jimmy's limo situation as well as PFW directly cited his private school background (unmentioned: he grew up in a very ritzy town) and the fact that his parents bought him a house in South Bend as direct causes/examples of his elitism.

I asked for baseless examples. Still your move.

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You are such a hypocrite. You talk about baseless accusations in one breath and then accuse everyone who has the audacity to disagree with your flimsy "facts" of doing nothing more than race baiting. Get a grip.

A couple of yours from earlier...

Here we go again with the holier than though routine. Come on Mr. Scot, step your game up.

You keep going on and on about race, who exactly are you trying to convince? Hey you've already proven your loyalty to the guy in the last thread about him and our franchise quarterback. Remember that one? We definitely know your opinion by now. There is nothing to debate with you about if you can't see what's in front of you.

You really are showing your true colors today. The only poster in this thread talking about race right now is you sir. It's ironic you chided another poster about getting their panties in a wad. I'm hearing little debate and mostly misplaced hostility from you. Enjoy your evening.

And this from Delhommey (which I find disappointing because he's generally better than that)...

Well if stirs and Mr Scot say someone's not racist...

But yeah, nobody's race-baiting, right?

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I'm not seeing anything in those posts consisting of "Mr. Scot is a racist". Try again.

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