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Sheldon Richardson, is he even a good fit here?

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Seriously how many times did you see him get push back compare to how many times he got in the Backfield.

too many for us to consider picking him.

fugit.. if warmack/cooper are there..snag'm.

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Im actually starting to like this dude, his first step is terrific without jumping the snap count if he's in the second(which i doubt) get this dude might even like him at the 14 pick. In this leauge DT's like him are going to become the cream of the crop

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too many for us to consider picking him.

fugit.. if warmack/cooper are there..snag'm.

Of course do you have any numbers in there some where on your breakdown or are you just FOS?

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Im actually starting to like this dude, his first step is terrific without jumping the snap count if he's in the second(which i doubt) get this dude might even like him at the 14 pick. In this leauge DT's like him are going to become the cream of the crop

are you watching the vids above?

cant say that i see him even going in the 1st with those highlights... but its all in good fun.

i made the mistake of reading too many mocks without watching enough footage... now im not convinced.

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http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/04/sec_football_by_the_numbers_nf_5.html

42 SEC players drafted, more than from any other conference. It's the sixth consecutive year in which the SEC has topped the nation's conferences in draft picks. The SEC edged the Big Ten by one selection. The Big Ten led until the final 12 picks, which included South Carolina DB Antonio Allen, Alabama TE Brad Smelley and South Carolina DT Travian Robertson from the SEC and Michigan State RB Edwin Baker from the Big Ten. This year, 16.6 percent of the players picked came from the SEC. The SEC record for most players in one draft is 56 in 1951, when 15.5 percent of the players picked came from the SEC. The highest percentage of drafted players from the SEC in one year came in 2010, when the 49 picks from the conference made up 19.2 percent of the draft class.

139 Consecutive rounds in which at least one SEC player has been picked. The most recent round without an SEC selection was the second in 1993. Since that round, at least two SEC players have been picked in every round except four. This year, nine SEC players were picked in the first round, five in the second round, two in the third round, 10 in the fourth round, six in the fifth round, four in the sixth round and six in the seventh round.

65 Consecutive drafts in which at least one SEC player has been selected in the first round. This year, nine SEC players were first-round picks. The most recent NFL draft in which an SEC player was not selected in the first round was 1947, although the first SEC player picked that year, LSU B Red Knight, was taken by the Redskins with the 17th selection, which would have put him in the middle of the first round this year.

Now show me the Division 2 stats in the draft??

That's great. Now give me the stats where SEC prospects run the NFL.

Top 10 QBs:

Rodgers

Ryan

P. Manning

Brady

Brees

Roethlisberger

E. Manning

Romo

Flacco

Schuab

Top 10 RBs:

A. Peterson

Foster

Lynch

Rice

Jones-Drew

McCoy

Charles

Gore

Forte

Jackson

Top 10 WRs:

C. Johnson

Fitzgerald

Green

Jones

Cruz

A. Johnson

S. Smith

Welker

Nicks

White

Top 10 TEs:

Gonzalez

Gronkowski

Hernandez

V. Davis

Finley

Witten

Graham

F. Davis

Gates

Is it quality over quantity or quantity over quality? Rhetorical question. While the NFL drafts a ton of SEC prospects, it means so little when the upper echelon outnumbers SEC products. Here's another little fun fact about your precious SEC, 28% of those 300+ hopeful draftees wash out of the NFL and 31% are second and third stringers.

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That's great. Now give me the stats where SEC prospects run the NFL.

Top 10 QBs:

Rodgers

Ryan

P. Manning

Brady

Brees

Roethlisberger

E. Manning

Romo

Flacco

Schuab

Top 10 RBs:

A. Peterson

Foster

Lynch

Rice

Jones-Drew

McCoy

Charles

Gore

Forte

Jackson

Top 10 WRs:

C. Johnson

Fitzgerald

Green

Jones

Cruz

A. Johnson

S. Smith

Welker

Nicks

White

Top 10 TEs:

Gonzalez

Gronkowski

Hernandez

V. Davis

Finley

Witten

Graham

F. Davis

Gates

Is it quality over quantity or quantity over quality? Rhetorical question. While the NFL drafts a ton of SEC prospects, it means so little when the upper echelon outnumbers SEC products. Here's another little fun fact about your precious SEC, 28% of those 300+ hopeful draftees wash out of the NFL and 31% are second and third stringers.

Show me a Stat where Division 2 Prospects run the NFL?

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Brandon Williams and Kawaan Short can get into the backfield too, point? Richardson isn't as rare of a prospect as you label him to be. He's explosive and athletic but he also gets bullied by average OL with 10-20 lbs on him.

Richardson does it better. Of course he's not a perfect prospect; if he was, this discussion would be pointless because he would be gone well before we got a shot at him. He is the best athlete that should be available to us, though. He's faster and more explosive than the two you mentioned. He's proven against the best offensive lines in the country, and his motor is unparalleled. Your assertion that he gets beat against the run is a bit exaggerated, but not without merit. He needs to get stronger, and his technique needs to improve. He'll be much more able to do those things than he was in college, especially considering that he only played a year of high-level football. He's the prototypical defensive tackle for the league right now, and I think he's a good pick.

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Of course do you have any numbers in there some where on your breakdown or are you just FOS?

what?

are you for the prick im mean pick?

hold on while I get a booster chair so you can see whats on the table.

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Show me a Stat where Division 2 Prospects run the NFL?

Is that the only argument you have left? I never claimed there was a huge portion of D-2 talent entering the NFL. My focal point was that SEC products don't dominate NFL rankings. The top talent in the NFL come from various conferences.

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Is that the only argument you have left? I never claimed there was a huge portion of D-2 talent entering the NFL. My focal point was that SEC products don't dominate NFL rankings. The top talent in the NFL come from various conferences.

The Fact that they are putting more players in the NFL then any conference is my point.

That means every week in the SEC your playing against NFL talent. You can't say the same for division 2.

So when making a judgement off a YOUTUBE VIDEO you must consider 1 player is playing against highly talented opposition and 1 isn't.

Plus the fact you're exaggerating on how many times he's getting push around anyway.

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Richardson does it better. Of course he's not a perfect prospect; if he was, this discussion would be pointless because he would be gone well before we got a shot at him. He is the best athlete that should be available to us, though. He's faster and more explosive than the two you mentioned. He's proven against the best offensive lines in the country, and his motor is unparalleled. Your assertion that he gets beat against the run is a bit exaggerated, but not without merit. He needs to get stronger, and his technique needs to improve. He'll be much more able to do those things than he was in college, especially considering that he only played a year of high-level football. He's the prototypical defensive tackle for the league right now, and I think he's a good pick.

Does he do it better as a pass rusher? Yes.

Is he the more well-rounded prospect? No.

While Richardson is a terror at shooting through the gap, he doesn't overwhelm prospects like D. Jones, Short and B. Williams (who can pressure the QB, stuff the run and hold a stronger point of attack). Improving his strength and technique holds no guarantees. Richardson gets swept away by mid-tier talent and that's a huge red flag. You may like him, but he's a high risk for the Panthers, especially since our run defense desperately needs an upgrade -- Sheldon doesn't offer that.

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what?

are you for the prick im mean pick?

hold on while I get a booster chair so you can see whats on the table.

Really???

This is worst then your bull poo breakdown of the video.

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