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Sheldon Richardson, is he even a good fit here?


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#106 KendrickPanther

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 05:03 PM

You don't spend a first round pick on somebody else just because your 32 year old mid to lower tier DT plays the same role. That goes for every position. If you believe in a player you take him and make room. Drafting for need is overrated. First round picks are all about getting great football players.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 05:11 PM

Why does every draft thread koolkat posts in turn into a cripple fight?

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 05:12 PM

You don't spend a first round pick on somebody else just because your 32 year old mid to lower tier DT plays the same role. That goes for every position. If you believe in a player you take him and make room. Drafting for need is overrated. First round picks are all about getting great football players.

totally agreed and i'm glad you included "that goes for every position" tho it will more than likely be ignored.

you go for great or potentially great football players. you look for players who can make what you do better in any phase. the bigger the impact they can have, the better. sometimes it adds to something that is already strong. sometimes it strengthens a weak spot. sometimes it allows you to move on from a higher paid/older player on your roster. sometimes it just opens up new elements.

with the exception of franchise QB (which is the top) you have positions that you like to focus on that you think can be the dominant strength of your team and you build it up. that's what the giants did anyway. that's what a lot of teams do.

if you look at the draft to fill holes, you're constantly going to be over-reaching for players.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 05:27 PM

Why does every draft thread koolkat posts in turn into a cripple fight?

say anything about Patterson and he will fight you to the death........... with words.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 05:32 PM

say anything about Patterson and he will fight you to the death........... with words.

for some reason this popped in my head when i read that.

"you dare disagree with me?
Posted Image".

of course he's not nearly alone in that. he just does it more.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 05:54 PM

for some reason this popped in my head when i read that.

"you dare disagree with me?
Posted Image".

of course he's not nearly alone in that. he just does it more.

10x more. i also find it funny that things he knocks Patterson for, he is willing to let go for Richardson.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 05:54 PM

Why does every draft thread koolkat posts in turn into a cripple fight?


Yes that's what happens.


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 05:55 PM

right on cue

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 05:59 PM

10x more. i also find it funny that things he knocks Patterson for, he is willing to let go for Richardson.


I find it odd this thread wasn't even about PATTERSON . But when he is brought up I'm brought up. Do i have to worshipped the field he plays on to get my name and his name detached?

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:01 PM

I find it odd this thread wasn't even about Patterdon . But when he is brought up I'm brought up. Do have worshipped the field he plays on to get my name and his name detached?

nah it is just funny that you hate Patterson so much that you are willing to argue people to death about his flaws but yet you take a blind eye to Richardsons.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:07 PM

nah it is just funny that you hate Patterson so much that you are willing to argue people to death about his flaws but yet you take a blind eye to Richardsons.


That's the problem. If I don't agree with your opinion on him then I must hate him. Not once did I say anybody in this thread who didn't want Richardson hated him. But the rules are different when talking about Patterson.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:24 PM

Sheldon Richardson is my 3rd favorite DT behind Star and Floyd, and my 2nd favorite player behind Tavon at no.14.
He is definetley worth the pick. People dislike him there bc he's another under-tackle. I dont care. Why?

(1) Sheldon is a pure pass rusher in the interior
(2) He's solid at the point of attack; wont get push around like a Fua.
(3) The most important thing is, his ability to demand teams to double team him.




Demand a double team? In college yes, NFL No. A good OG is going to handle a 285-295 DT.

NO to Micheal Crabtree 2.0 Austin,
No to a DT under 300 LBs Richardson.


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:29 PM



Demand a double team? In college yes, NFL No. A good OG is going to handle a 285-295 DT.
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NO to Micheal Crabtree 2.0 Austin,
No to a DT under 300 LBs Richardson.


So you don't want him because he is 5 pounds under 300?

1 night at The Waffle House can fix that.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:55 PM

So you don't want him because he is 5 pounds under 300?

1 night at The Waffle House can fix that.


We need some beef up front not a tweener like Richardson.

Hell Hardy at 299 is probably as athletic as Richardson and he did nothing when he moved to DT.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 07:00 PM

We need some beef up front not a tweener like Richardson.

Hell Hardy at 299 is probably as athletic as Richardson and he did nothing when he moved to DT.


Dude is just as strong as your beef guys. He did put up 30 reps on the bench at the combine. Plus SUh was only 7 pounds heavier when he came out.


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