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Bucs' offer for Revis: 1st, 3rd, 6th & ~$15mil py long term contract

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Anyone believe Rivera DID learn from his mistakes? Ron made sooooo many last year but he improved towards the end of the season. Rivera also found a backbone during that two month span.

here's the thing with that...were we put in any close game situations towards the end? or were our wins achieved with a sizeable enough of a lead that his shortcomings in the game management area weren't harmful enough to cost us a win.

the record improved, but i can't say we saw an improvement in the much needed area of game management in close games. so far what we've seen is we have to be dominant from start to finish with a 10+ point lead at least or we will likely lose. it's either blow them out or lose. not a whole lot of middle ground there. until we see him in another close game i don't think we've seen any evidence he's improved where he most needed it.

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This is a win-now trade...is my homer vision in the way, or are the Bucs actually in position to be a win-now team?

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Freeman is neither great nor terrible. Very middle of the road. But I wasn't expecting such a regression after '10 either but it happened. He very well could regress or stagnate this year. I was a believer in Freeman after '10 but he's shat the bed for two seasons since then, so I'm not exactly expecting much progression. Especially with Schiano's supposed commitment to old school football.

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Schiano looks like foxball meets Tony Dungy ball meets every other kind of hard to watch antiquated football system. Not that it cant work because they beat us with it twice last year. The only problem is if you dont have 2 1100 yard rushers it just wont get you to where you want to be. Hell even when we had the "right pieces" it went to poo really quick. The bucs will be tough and stubborn but will fail to deliver on a regular basis because in this league with the rules setup for offense, a ground and pound style just wont cut it.

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here's the thing with that...were we put in any close game situations towards the end? or were our wins achieved with a sizeable enough of a lead that his shortcomings in the game management area weren't harmful enough to cost us a win.

There is one example from the last quarter of the season that points to Ron improving. The last game against the Saints. After about 3 quarters it was looking very much like the first game against the Falcons. We went up, then started playing soft and the Saints looked like they were poised to catch up. Then we hit the turbos and dialed it up a notch and sealed the win. That single game is what gives me hope for Ron (though it isn't a lot, considering it was just one game...)

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While the Bucs are stupid as shite, we did, at one time, give two players 80 million dollar contracts.... something to chew on....

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130409/darrelle-revis-trade-new-york-jets-tampa-bay-buccaneers/?sct=uk_t11_a6

I cannot make any sense of this reasoning. The Bucs has those choieses:

1.

*Get a very good player with a 4 year rookie deal at the 13th spot

*Get a potential starter with a very cheap rookie deal in the 3rd

*Have ~$12-13M left a year for 4 years to sign a free agent(s)

2.

*Get the best corner in the game

For now, lets forget the busted knee and the fact that "best corner" is pushing it. Banks argues that it is the Jets that are the once the needs to make up thier mind???

This deal is so terrible for the Bucs that I would shut out load from my cubical if it happened.

"New York owner Woody Johnson demands significant value in return for Revis and won't accept him walking away as a free agent next spring, with only a compensatory draft pick to show for it"

So what? I can demand $1M for the left overs of a Bojangles meal on ebay all I want but it is the buyer that sets the price.

Please please Bucs, be this stupid!!

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"New York owner Woody Johnson demands significant value in return for Revis and won't accept him walking away as a free agent next spring, with only a compensatory draft pick to show for it"

How do owners get rich enough to be owners, while still being this dumb? Doesn't matter, Bucs look like they want to pay it, so it's the perfect trade.

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How do owners get rich enough to be owners, while still being this dumb? Doesn't matter, Bucs look like they want to pay it, so it's the perfect trade.

He inherited his money...

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