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#1 panther4life

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:19 PM

and what are you using to base your opinion?

Personally I have been using www.draftbreakdown.com for their cut up's of prospects. I only used scouting reports and prospect rankings to get a consensus of who I should look at. I studied DB'S, DT'S, AND WR'S game cut up's quite a bit. I am going to limit each list to 1 player and am curious to hear your personal opinions as well as how you formed your opinions. So there is potentially some under rated sleepers I missed because the masses did not inform me to look them over.

Over rated
Safety - Jonathan Cyprien- Limited material to see, but what I saw does not make me think first round pick.

Cornerback - Desmond Trufant. I liked at least 3 corners better than him.

DT - Shariff Floyd- He's good but to be talked about as # 1 overall or even top 5..I am missing it if it's there.

WR - Tavon Austin- I see the possiblities with him but I don't think he should be the first receiver off the board for any team, espcially not us.

Under Rated
Safety - Shamarko Thomas- I get it he's short. He does not play that way to me and seems like the most sure tackler of any safety prospect I have seen. I think he'd be a great SS on our Defense. This guy would be great playing inside the box.

Cornerback - Jonathan Banks - This guy once upon a time was rated high not sure what happened. I liked everything I saw.

DT- John Jenkins is another guy I am super high on. I love him as a nose tackle. If people keep sleeping on Star then I'd have him as even more under rated but he seems to be rebounding from that heart test in some mocks/rankings.

WR- Terrance Williams. He's not my favorite receiver(that title goes to Keenan) but I like him more than the masses. A little raw but has terrific hands, good vertical threat and willing blocker.

If at all possible would be nice to let people post their opinions and let it be. Just want to hear some opposing views without having to read thru pissing matches of others bashing other's opinions and forcing them to go on the defensive and derailing the thread. Be fun to bump the thread down the road and laugh at each other but for now just wanna hear some other opinions.

#2 Argus Plexus

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:25 PM

Honestly I dont know what to think about this years prospects. There arent that many players worthy of a top 15 pick to be honest.

#3 Kuech the Sneak

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:25 PM

I disagree with alot of this here. Especially Floyd and Jenkins. Floyd Is 10x the player he is in my opinion

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:30 PM

Overrated

Kenny Vaccaro
Sheldon Richardson
Tavon Austin
T.J. McDonald
Margus Hunt

Underrated

Robert Woods
Markus Wheaton
Desmond Trufant
D.J. Hayden (if his health isn't an issue)
Brandon Williams
Shamarko Thomas
Robert Alford
Kyle Long
Marquess Wilson

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:33 PM

I disagree with alot of this here. Especially Floyd and Jenkins. Floyd Is 10x the player he is in my opinion


Not saying Jenkins is better, but based off where they are projected to go, I feel like Jenkins is being slighted and Floyd is being a little over hyped imo. I was not posting prospect rankings just the most over rated and under rated prospects in my eyes. Have not looked over every prospect but have the top 5-10 or so at each position I listed.

#6 Swaggasaurus

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:42 PM

Over- Richardson, Patterson, Floyd, Vaccaro, Reid, Trufant

Under-Short, JWilliams, Marquess Wilson, Travis Bond, Duke Williams

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:44 PM

Overrated:

Tavon Austin, before the combine. The guy was at best a late third round pick. Once he ran that 40 time, he sky rocketed. He's been over hyped by the likes of McShay, Kiper, etc. He's a career slot receiver. Nothing more nothing less. Percy Harvin did not get this much hype and he went in the late first. I don't see why he should be the first guy taken. I good someone else takes him.


Underrated:
Keenan Allen and Justin Hunter.

Both are severely underrated, not only by the couch GM here but the national pundits too.


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:53 PM

Overrated:

Floyd x1000. Quite possibly the most overrated prospect I've seen in a long time.
Patterson. Almost any other year he'd be looked at like a 2nd round prospect like he was early in draft season.

Underrated:

Hunter.
Rambo.
Hankins.

#9 Squirrel

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:54 PM

Austin was a late first early second before the combine.

To keep the homerism going Stedman Bailey is underrated.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:59 PM

Overrated:

Kenny Vaccaro
Xavier Rhodes
Sheldon Richardson
Cordarrelle Patterson

Underrated:

Da'Rick Rogers
Earl Wolffe
Robert Alford
Brandon Williams


A few names to start with...

#11 DaCityKats

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:04 PM

i think after tomorrow Allen will be talked about again as one of the top WR prospects.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:10 PM

Overrated: Patterson, Joeckel, Floyd, Vaccaro, Milliner

Underrated: Elam, Woods, Bailey, Eifert, Hankins, Rogers

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:13 PM

Overrated:
Tavon Austin- Players like Steve Smith and Welker were drafted or not drafted in the correct rounds. Steve beat the odds but the odds still exist. Big fast guys run the NFL. Trying to pick the next Steve Smith is like wasting $20 on a scratch off ticket.

Chance Warmack - I just look at this guy and think his knees, feet, and ankles will not last 10 years in this league. He certainly has talent but I predict injury troubles for big Chance.

Mike Glennon - I just look at him and think this guy isn't a franchise QB

Kenny Vaccaro - 2nd Round pick in my opinion


Underrated:

Kenjon Barner - I think he has talent. He might not be Ray Rice, but he reminds me of Ray Rice in terms of being underrated.

EJ Manuel - I think there are some less talented Quarterbacks above him right now.

Levine Toilolo - This guy is huge. Most of his flaws can be coached if he's willing to learn.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:16 PM

i think after tomorrow Allen will be talked about again as one of the top WR prospects.


I think he's a top prospect in his position but Allen is a tad overhyped. His skills, talent and athleticism don't overshadow WRs like Austin, Rogers and Hopkins. Furthermore, the comparisons to Calvin Johnson are ridiculous.

If we don't draft him, I certainly won't lose any sleep over it.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:26 PM

Overrated: Patterson, Mingo, Lacy and Richardson - Warmack and Cooper if you have them going in the top half of the 1st

Underrated: Hopkins, Gio Bernard, Datone Jones, Stedman Bailey


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