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#41 SZ James (banned)

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 09:54 AM

I mean I dunno about the actual money "lost" on used games but apparently it's pretty significant to developers. It would send quite the message to the big three that would force the other two to make it the norm.

ps- I don't buy that argument myself I'm just saying the companies do

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 09:58 AM

I mean I dunno about the actual money "lost" on used games but apparently it's pretty significant to developers. It would send quite the message to the big three that would force the other two to make it the norm.

ps- I don't buy that argument myself I'm just saying the companies do


I hear ya, just at the end of the day I feel like it's the big three that hold the leverage not the developers. Developers want to make as much money as possible, which can only happen if they're willing to develop for all three platforms....

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 02:26 PM

If there are no more physical disks, then they could save a ton on production and distribution costs. No CDs, no boxes, no shipping, not paying a graphic artist to design box art for goodness sake! With a totally electronic distribution methodology, Microsoft could save millions, and pass the savings on to us the consumer in the form of cheap new games!


They won't, though.



They already digitally sell games and they're the standards $59.99. Many have pointed out how stupid that is yet people still buy the games that way. The $60 Black Ops 2 is one of the most bought games on XBL. I guarantee that they'll NEVER lower prices.


Hell, supposedly prices these days are a lot better than what they were during the nintendo days.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:11 PM

Im a 360 guy but I will laugh hysterically at Microsoft when the PS4 destroys the new Xbox in the market provided these rumors are true. There's not a force on earth that could make me buy the new xbox if they are. It's corporate greed at it's absolute finest and purest form.


I'd assume Microsoft would try to not even release confirmation on these rumors and hope nobody notices until they haul in enough money to try and compete against the PS4 when their system is released.


At this rate, by the time I have a teenager ready to game, it will be practically impossible. These companies want to sell you less and less game for more and more money. As mentioned above, it's gonna reach a point where these games are nothing but extended rentals.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 06:42 AM

It's MUCH more difficult for people who pirate games to play when they're connected to XBL. The #1 piece of advise when dealing with modded consoles is stay off of XBL whenever possible. Now, if you're getting into JTAG/RGH territory then connecting to XBL is flat-out impossible as far as I'm aware.

I think, though, it's arrogant for MS to think that the hackers aren't going to find a way around this like they do around everything else. Eventually they find a way around everything. It's only a matter of time.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 08:40 AM

It's MUCH more difficult for people who pirate games to play when they're connected to XBL. The #1 piece of advise when dealing with modded consoles is stay off of XBL whenever possible. Now, if you're getting into JTAG/RGH territory then connecting to XBL is flat-out impossible as far as I'm aware.

I think, though, it's arrogant for MS to think that the hackers aren't going to find a way around this like they do around everything else. Eventually they find a way around everything. It's only a matter of time.


There's a way to just flash your DVD drive right now and you can game on. You just have to re-flash each patch but no biggie. Buddy of mine plays on live all the time as well as others I know. JTAG is definitely bad though, you'll get the banhammer fast.

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 05:32 AM

It's MUCH more difficult for people who pirate games to play when they're connected to XBL. The #1 piece of advise when dealing with modded consoles is stay off of XBL whenever possible. Now, if you're getting into JTAG/RGH territory then connecting to XBL is flat-out impossible as far as I'm aware.

I think, though, it's arrogant for MS to think that the hackers aren't going to find a way around this like they do around everything else. Eventually they find a way around everything. It's only a matter of time.


Problem is only a very small subset of users pirate games for consoles these days.

The big issue is that if the new Xbox is always on, it will inconvenience 100% of users to prevent less than 1% from pirating. That's not acceptable.

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 02:34 PM

Problem is only a very small subset of users pirate games for consoles these days.

The big issue is that if the new Xbox is always on, it will inconvenience 100% of users to prevent less than 1% from pirating. That's not acceptable.

Exactly. I have NEVER pirated a game, and will never pirate a game. Even stuff that I watch online for free (such as Game of Thrones series, Walking Dead), I end up buying on DVD. I always support things I like (by buying products) because I know that people work hard on them. This is an inconvenience, and that is the point.

Everybody's internet goes down from time to time, some worse than others, like me. If you are someone working 40-50 hours a week you likely have to put aside certain times that you play. And if the internet goes out you're screwed in this scenario we're talking about.

In any case I won't be supporting any consoles with this feature. If that means I have to stop gaming then I'll find something else to do.

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 09:29 PM

Guarantee you they're sticking this out so that when they change it to "one time activation" people who were expecting "always on" will be like "Oh okay, I can deal with that."


And even if the PS4 doesn't utilize this, Sony will eventually.

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 09:36 PM

lol consoles


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