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#76 C47

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:01 AM

Allen is bigger. Allen is the unquestioned best route runner in the draft. Allen has the best hands in the draft and his catch radius is just amazing. To compare the production of the two is lunatical. In addition to the fact Allen missed a chunk of the season, he also was forced to play with Jimmy Maynard rather than future first rounder Tahj Boyd in an incredibly effective pass offense.


None of those arguments serve your overall point because they're either inaccurate, or so blatantly taken out of the overall context that it's somewhat humorous.


I think Allen's hands are a lot better then some are giving him credit for, but I'm not sure they're better than Vernon's, Swope's, or Woods'.....

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:01 AM

Allen is bigger. Allen is the unquestioned best route runner in the draft. Allen has the best hands in the draft and his catch radius is just amazing. To compare the production of the two is lunatical. In addition to the fact Allen missed a chunk of the season, he also was forced to play with Jimmy Maynard rather than future first rounder Tahj Boyd in an incredibly effective pass offense.


None of those arguments serve your overall point because they're either inaccurate, or so blatantly taken out of the overall context that it's somewhat humorous.


LOL

Dude, you're biased as hell. I'm admittedly biased toward Hopkins - he's the guy I want. But to act like what you've stated is factual while dismissing anything to the contrary doesn't make you seem very intelligent. Your opinion does not equal fact. Other than black and white measurements, workout numbers and stats, there are no facts in scouting. It's all opinion.

Boyd ain't gonna be a 1st rounder.

#78 Growl

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:01 AM

It's threads like these that reveal which people actually know what they're looking at when they watch "tape" and those who watch them looking for highlight reel plays.

Some arguments people are making can't even be quanitifed as "opinions" because they're so blatantly opposite from the truth. It would be like someone arguing that Cam doesn't have a strong arm. Sure, you can have that opinion, but I'm not going to respect it because it's so blatantly ridiculous.

#79 LinvilleGorge

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:02 AM

It's threads like these that reveal which people actually know what they're looking at when they watch "tape" and those who watch them looking for highlight reel plays.

Some arguments people are making can't even be quanitifed as "opinions" because they're so blatantly opposite from the truth. It would be like someone arguing that Cam doesn't have a strong arm. Sure, you can have that opinion, but I'm not going to respect it because it's so blatantly ridiculous.


You just get mad when someone's not all over "your" guy. If we take Allen, I hope he's great, but to act like his 40 time isn't at least a little concerning is just having your head in the sand.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:03 AM

Has anybody thought about the idea that Rivera went to Cal and we are looking at receivers anyway? Maybe this was a good opportunity to visit with his alma mater while on the job. Two birds, one stone. Keenan Allen is far from a sure thing as our pick right now.


Except that it was in Greensboro...

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:03 AM

LOL

Dude, you're biased as hell. I'm admittedly biased toward Hopkins - he's the guy I want. But to act like what you've stated is factual while dismissing anything to the contrary doesn't make you seem very intelligent. Your opinion does not equal fact. Other than black and white measurements, workout numbers and stats, there are no facts in scouting. It's all opinion.

Boyd ain't gonna be a 1st rounder.



This entire post is exactly what I'm talking about. I also find it comical to see you back out of your inital argument with the classic"well, that's just like your opinion, bro!"

You made an argument, I showed your argument was rooted in truths that didn't exist. There's no "conflicting opinions" about that. That's you being wrong.

lol at Tahj Boyd not being projected as a first rounder. thats you also being wrong.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:04 AM

Allen is bigger. Allen is the unquestioned best route runner in the draft. Allen has the best hands in the draft and his catch radius is just amazing. To compare the production of the two is lunatical. In addition to the fact Allen missed a chunk of the season, he also was forced to play with Jimmy Maynard rather than future first rounder Tahj Boyd in an incredibly effective pass offense.


None of those arguments serve your overall point because they're either inaccurate, or so blatantly taken out of the overall context that it's somewhat humorous.


These two points are just flat out untrue. Deandre Hopkins and Quinton Patton are highly touted for their routes. Stedman Bailey (though he dropped one or two at the pro day) and Markus Wheaton are being looked at as guys with the best hands in the draft.

#83 jtm

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:04 AM

Make whatever excuse you want, but 4.7 is slow for a WR. That's not even a fast time for a LB. our favorite safety, Nakumura, ran a 4.55 as a FYI.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:04 AM

If he runs a slow 40 time the he probably wouldn't be very good in Madden, so I don't want him.






And yes, that was a joke :P

#85 LinvilleGorge

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:04 AM

Except that it was in Greensboro...


Yeah, we're clearly looking at WR in the 1st. Allen is considered one of the top WRs in the draft. It would've been outright neglect if the Panthers weren't strongly represented with this happening right up the road.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:05 AM

Except that it was in Greensboro...


Ha. Good point. poo. Well it was in state. Easy pro day for a guy we are looking at. Boom.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:05 AM

Has anybody thought about the idea that Rivera went to Cal and we are looking at receivers anyway? Maybe this was a good opportunity to visit with his alma mater while on the job. Two birds, one stone. Keenan Allen is far from a sure thing as our pick right now.



Except oops. Keenan Allen had his pro day at Proehlific Park with his mentor Ricky Proehl, who threw for him.


You know. That guy who is a coach on our roster.


I swear do you people not even have the decency to read the initial post before you go spouting off comments. I never understood that. What if this post was about apple pie? What if i simply named it that to draw people in? Then you'd look even sillier than you do now.

#88 LinvilleGorge

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:06 AM

This entire post is exactly what I'm talking about. I also find it comical to see you back out of your inital argument with the classic"well, that's just like your opinion, bro!"

You made an argument, I showed your argument was rooted in truths that didn't exist. There's no "conflicting opinions" about that. That's you being wrong.

lol at Tahj Boyd not being projected as a first rounder. thats you also being wrong.


This is a man who clearly doesn't understand the difference between "fact" and "opinion". In his mind, everything he thinks = fact; everything anyone else thinks = stupid opinion.

This type of person is better known as an idiot.

#89 KDawg004

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:06 AM

Scouts are raving about the day he had. Why would that take him from the mid 1st to a mid 2nd?

Something doesn't add up in your logic.


I haven't read up on his Pro Day yet. Just saw he ran a slow 40 and since people take those times to the heart hoping he would tumble in the draft. I wouldn't mind him at 14. He's my favorite WR of the bunch.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:06 AM

Except oops. Keenan Allen had his pro day at Proehlific Park with his mentor Ricky Proehl, who thre for him.


You know. That guy who is a coach on our roster.


I already acknowledged the mistake dickhead.


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