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Interesting interview with Mike Tannenbaum on Sirius today.


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#25 pantherclaw

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:40 PM

We shall see.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:46 PM

fug it, let's take WR in both 1st and second.


Draft nuk twice :)

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:28 PM

His biggest regret should be drafting Sanchez.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:33 PM

This is what I've been saying for a while. Although we have had a NT problem for about 4 years now we have always managed to find a journey man capable of letting our defense compete.

However at WR we have not had an oil change for about 10 years and are on the verge of breakdown. Hixon I think will significantly help but I think Keenan Allen or Hopkins will make our WR core a force to be reckoned with. Either of those guys will fit us well and will provide the redzone threat that we need. As far as TE goes I don't expect Olsen to get hurt but it would be wise to find an athletic option in the later rounds. I wish Barnidge had stayed because I think he is a pretty good back up.



Were you here in 2010,2011, and 2012?

I don't like the idea of using a bandaide on the DT position again. We saw this year how placing more importance on the position helps the Defense as a whole.

Plus you're forgetting the fact we've drafted 5 wr's and brought in 3 Fa WR the last 3 years. When was the last time we used a top 60 pick on a DT? We have done nothing but bring in bandaids for that position.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:41 PM

His biggest regret should be drafting trading up to draft Sanchez.

ftfy

bad enough drafting him to begin with. trading up was laughable.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:44 PM

Were you here in 2010,2011, and 2012?

I don't like the idea of using a bandaide on the DT position again. We saw this year how placing more importance on the position helps the Defense as a whole.

Plus you're forgetting the fact we've drafted 5 wr's and brought in 3 Fa WR the last 3 years. When was the last time we used a top 60 pick on a DT? We have done nothing but bring in bandaids for that position.


I agree 2010-2012 has been crap. But those were also the seasons where John Fox didn't give a damn about the team and JR was prepping for the lock out. But in the past we've managed to find guys to at least give us a chance.

All of our WR's selections in the draft have been BS secondary considerations. Lafell is only the one worth anything and no one expected him or expects him to be a #1 guy. Armanti was a worthless project and the expectations for Gettis were never that high.

Not saying that I disagree with you. I would have loved for us to take a top DT years ago. But we have been able to compete in the past without one. WR is at the brink of a huge fall out that we have never seen, probably in the history of the franchise. Maybe not now since we signed Hixon but if something ever happens to Smith.... LaFell, Edwards, Adams, maybe Gettis? That is disastrous.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:45 PM

fug it, let's take WR in both 1st and second.


I doubt we go WR in the 1st and 2cd back to back, but taking 2 WRs in this draft wouldn't surprise me.

We've scouted a ton of WR prospects ranging from 1st round prospects to potential undrafted FAs. Gettleman seems serious about getting Cam surrounded by better receiving talent and based on our FA moves and our scouting, he doesn't seem sold on the existing talent in the least. I fully expect us to go WR in either the 1st or the second, but even if we do, it wouldn't surprise me at all if we went with another one later. I had high hopes for Adams, but I don't think any WR from last year's roster not named Smitty or LaFell is a lock to make this year's roster.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:54 PM

What was that thing Gettlemen said?

"Big men can eat". . . noooo uhmm, "big men allow you to eat". . . nooo "BIG men eat and allow you to also"

It was something like that but anyways, we should totally waste our first round pick on a guy that wont be playing on most of the snaps. I mean all those rookies can block their asses off right?

I know. . Im narrowminded even though Im the one telling you to consider other options and other positions (Right Rayray?). . . Im not intelligent because Im the one saying that you dont draft a guy at 14 to not start even the LaFell and Smith are both still on the roster and are CLEARLY your starters (right LinvilleGorge and Growl?). . . I know. . Im a hater because I am one of the few who believe that one of the guys on our roster could very well break out and make something of himself (Right DaCityCats?).

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:59 PM

I doubt we go WR in the 1st and 2cd back to back, but taking 2 WRs in this draft wouldn't surprise me.




Funny how you called me an idiot for telling you a week ago huh? Youre kinda stupid huh Gorge?

Its cool, have some pie for being an ass

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:03 PM

I agree 2010-2012 has been crap. But those were also the seasons where John Fox didn't give a damn about the team and JR was prepping for the lock out. But in the past we've managed to find guys to at least give us a chance.

All of our WR's selections in the draft have been BS secondary considerations. Lafell is only the one worth anything and no one expected him or expects him to be a #1 guy. Armanti was a worthless project and the expectations for Gettis were never that high.

Not saying that I disagree with you. I would have loved for us to take a top DT years ago. But we have been able to compete in the past without one. WR is at the brink of a huge fall out that we have never seen, probably in the history of the franchise. Maybe not now since we signed Hixon but if something ever happens to Smith.... LaFell, Edwards, Adams, maybe Gettis? That is disastrous.



1. Fox had nothing to do with the 2011 (where we had the worst defense in league) and 2012 (where we aloud 4.2 yards per carry and 110.0 yards per game).

2. We haven't had a good DT situation since Kemo, Kris J, and Buckner were here.

3. My point was you can't act like they haven't tried to put resources into the WR position. They signed, drafted , and traded to help that position.

4. We have been able to compete on the offensive end a lot more the last few years then the defense side. We lost the Bears, Falcons, 2nd Bucs, and Chiefs game because of our defense last year. That's 4 wins we should have had if we could hold a lead in the last 2 mins of a game.

5. You can say that about a lot of position on this team.
What happens if Edwards gets hurt or play drop because of his age? Last year was his best season ever can we really depend on him to have the same production?
What about in the secondary? We are not in good shape there at all.
What happens if Gross or Kali goes down again?

My point is we have a lot of position on the verge of a fall out if a injuries happens. But a lot of teams are that way.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:17 PM

Is it just the speed difference?

yeah that is it really. he just gets behind the coverage so much, and while im a huge Allen fan i think Hopkins might just be the better fit. the knee doesnt scare me.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:17 PM

I doubt we go WR in the 1st and 2cd back to back, but taking 2 WRs in this draft wouldn't surprise me.

We've scouted a ton of WR prospects ranging from 1st round prospects to potential undrafted FAs. Gettleman seems serious about getting Cam surrounded by better receiving talent and based on our FA moves and our scouting, he doesn't seem sold on the existing talent in the least. I fully expect us to go WR in either the 1st or the second, but even if we do, it wouldn't surprise me at all if we went with another one later. I had high hopes for Adams, but I don't think any WR from last year's roster not named Smitty or LaFell is a lock to make this year's roster.



If this is the case I would be disappointed with Gettlemen. If you were thinking of getting WR's in the draft. Why spend FA money on that position? We could have used Ginn, Hixon, and Blackburn money on Kelly, Phillps , Branch, Jenkins, or any assortment of secondary, DT and OLine players. WR isn't the only nor the biggest hole on this team and it will be a overkill at that position. With what they've done in FA.