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Is Julius Peppers the greatest player in Panthers history?

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imagine how dumb you would feel if you were making an argument over and over again and then some really smart, handsome guy with a great avatar came up with a quote from the person you were attempting to speak for that 100% refuted everything you had said up to that point. wouldn't that be awful!

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also as for you bringing up the mystery illness in 2007 over and over:

shield your eyes everyone this is getting ugly

Peppers doesn't like to make excuses, he did miss a lot of training camp in 2007 and suffered from an illness and lost weight and strength. And just because his sack numbers were down doesn't mean he didn't have an impact, he had 3 forced fumbles, 2 fumble recoveries, 1 interception, 5 passes defensed, and 2 blocked kicks in 2007 while only playing in 14 games that season. Regardless though as stated in a prior post, Peppers isn't the only player to ever have a bad season.

Here are just a few players who have had bad seasons.... there are many more.

http://espn.go.com/n...45/jason-taylor Jason Taylor

http://espn.go.com/n...michael-strahan Michael Strahan

http://espn.go.com/n...4/chris-doleman Chris Doleman

http://espn.go.com/n...47/richard-dent Richard Dent

http://espn.go.com/n.../dwight-freeney Dwight Freeney

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I'd argue Pep is now the 2nd best athlete thanks to a guy now on the roster....and the guy to surpass Smith is already on the roster as well and off to a historic pace.

Newton has shown flashes, images that we right now will remember for life, but he has more years before he hits that greatest level of Smith or even Peppers. As far as Peppers athleticism you have to believe what PredatorPeppers said because Peppers could ball. He was no joke when playing on the court with the basketball power house UNC players.

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Imagine Peppers and CJ together with Hardy at DT alongside another competent DT

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...forgot to mention his other two distinctions... pussy and traitor...

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Newton has shown flashes, images that we right now will remember for life, but he has more years before he hits that greatest level of Smith or even Peppers. As far as Peppers athleticism you have to believe what PredatorPeppers said because Peppers could ball. He was no joke when playing on the court with the basketball power house UNC players.

2 years in...vs any panther 2 years in....Newton is on a completely different level IMO.

That is why I said he is on the roster...not that he has trumped Smith yet. But he should.

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with Peppers before the 2006 season He played with a fire that we just never saw afterwords, just imagine if peppers player with the same fire that Hardy does. dude would be talked about every other sportscenter about being a first ballout HOF like Ray Lewis, but he just never had the drive.

Now I have nothing against peppers leaving, do I hate that he left? yep, but with that said I should be the last person on earth the blame someone for just wanting to get a change of scenery, because I've done that like 5 times already, got bored with a spot and moved.

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They made a last ditch effort, by then it was too late. Regardless, whether Peppers wanted to stay or not really doesn't matter, maybe he felt it was time to move on, maybe he didn't like the fans and media in Carolina talking garbage about him, etc.

http://articles.chic...l-carey-chicago

"I think back in Charlotte, I had been there so long that everybody got used to me. I mean, I got attention there and all that. But out here in Chicago, it feels a lot more genuine.''

Peppers' words and body language imply that his desire to bolt Charlotte wasn't all about leaving Carolina Panthersicon1.png blue behind for the green in Chicago.

"Truth be told, that's really one of the small reasons that I wanted to get out; because everybody knows your business in Charlotte,'' he says. "I wanted to try something different because out here in Chicago, Jordan was here. Pippen was here. They've got Urlacher. They've got hockey. They've got the baseballicon1.png. In Charlotte, it was all about the Panthers.''

Peppers pauses then finishes the thought.

"I live on a small town on the lake, and I mean people would get on their jet skis and just post up in front of my crib, trying to see who was there in my house.''

Peppers' initial impression of his new home is that it mirrors Toronto and New York, his favorite getaways. Here in Chicago, he believes he can live in obscurity.

Translation, it's easier to hide my homosexual lifestyle here in Chicago.

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OP would give Peppers a handjob if he asked him

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with Peppers before the 2006 season He played with a fire that we just never saw afterwords, just imagine if peppers player with the same fire that Hardy does. dude would be talked about every other sportscenter about being a first ballout HOF like Ray Lewis, but he just never had the drive.

Now I have nothing against peppers leaving, do I hate that he left? yep, but with that said I should be the last person on earth the blame someone for just wanting to get a change of scenery, because I've done that like 5 times already, got bored with a spot and moved.

Then why did Peppers record his career high in sacks in 2008? Why did he play with a broken hand in 2009 and still dominate? How did he finish 4th in the DOPtY Award voting in 2010 if he didn't play with desire? Why did the Bears give Peppers a six year contract worth up to 91.5 million dollars if he took plays off and didn't care? All that stuff about him not caring and taking plays off is hear say and just isn't true.

http://sports.yahoo....persbears011411

Chicago Bears coach Lovie Smith and defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli approached the offseason evaluation of defensive end Julius Peppers with caution.

The second overall pick in the 2002 NFL draft, Peppers was a five-time Pro Bowl selection who had racked up 25 sacks in the previous two seasons, yet, during the 2010 offseason, he was an unrestricted free agent.

“We did a lot of homework on him,” Smith said, “and everything came back the same.”

Despite his immense NFL success – 81 sacks in his first eight seasons – Peppers was dogged by questions that he wasn’t consistent and that he didn’t fulfill his potential. So Smith wanted to be comfortable that Peppers was going to be a cornerstone defender and not a free-agent disaster.

Smith sought the input of numerous people he trusted, including his friend Ron Meeks, the Carolina Panthers’ defensive coordinator in 2009 and 2010.

“ ‘One of the best guys you will have a chance to coach,’ ” Smith recalled one person telling him. “Everything was positive.”

Peppers was an exception, so the Bears made an exception.

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what thus thread needs is more quotes from random articles that no one is going to read.

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what thus thread needs is more quotes from random articles that no one is going to read.

I think I'll take the word of Peppers' coaches and teammates that say he is a great player and teammate and plays hard over a few disgruntled fans that say he takes plays off and doesn't care. :)

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