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Keenan Allen's 40 time; 4.71, Luke Kuechly's 40 time; 4.5. Anyone concerned by Allen's speed? (Or lack thereof)


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#1 CharlottePanther

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 10:56 PM

I wont be mad whatsoever if we draft Allen early because Im in the "I dont care which one, just draft a WR early" camp. However, I would be lying if I said Keenan Allen's 40 time didnt worry me. Yes I understand he was coming off injury and yes I know Jerry Rice ran in the 4.7s, but even pre injury, Keenan Allen was known for not being speedy.

I think simply brushing off Allen's lack of speed with the "but Jerry Rice ran a 4.7 40 time" is just plain dangerous. How many WRs have seen a lot of success with 40s in the 4.7s? My guess would be not many at all. Jerry Rice was a huge exception to the rule.

The bottom line is yes I understand speed isnt everything, but I do think its somewhat concerning that your starting MLB is 0.20 seconds faster than a WR you are considering drafting in the first round. Also keep in mind Manti Teo ran a 4.7. Is anyone else concerned that a WR we are seriously considering drafting early is as fast or a bit slower than a lot of linebackers?

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 10:59 PM

sure am, don't want Allen at all....don't like injuries

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:03 PM

I think a healthy Keenan Allen runs a 4.6 but I can see the concerns over it. However it's not that big of a deal, in my opinion. Both Hopkins and Rogers ran 4.5s at the combine.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:04 PM



Some perspective.....#6 is Trufant (4.38), and 28 is Quinton Richardson (timed in the mid 4.3's at Washington's Pro Day last year).....

Yea Richardson catches him, but it's not until it's a 70 yard gain....

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:06 PM

Well, it's certainly not what I prefer, especially from a WR1 (not presuming that he would be one), but a football player is a football player. He may help Cam learn to check down more quickly by providing a bigger, more physical and reliable target, but he certainly won't benefit from Cam's cannon on a regular basis, as he is a tad slow. We would still have to put a blazer who can actually catch on our radar to take pressure off Smith, and round out the offense.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:10 PM

maybe he comes off the blocks poorly because he has never ran track. the 40 involves a lot of technique. he certainly doesn't look that slow on the field. i'm not overly concerned about it.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:12 PM



Some perspective.....#6 is Trufant (4.38), and 28 is Quinton Richardson (timed in the mid 4.3's at Washington's Pro Day last year).....

Yea Richardson catches him, but it's not until it's a 70 yard gain....


Some perspective BUT he's been caught by DBs that run 4.6s and 4.7s too. That clip brings very little to the table.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:12 PM

He could be a target at #44. He ain't going in the 1st after running a 4.7 and having injury concerns.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:13 PM

Some perspective BUT he's been caught by DBs that run 4.6s and 4.7s too. That clip brings very little to the table.


He's also run away from DBS that run faster than that too, just watch games from his Sophomore year.....

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:20 PM

He could be a target at #44. He ain't going in the 1st after running a 4.7 and having injury concerns.


Agreed 100%, hell, wouldnt be shocked if he slipped to the top of the 3rd round. Probably wont happen but wouldnt be shocked either.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:22 PM

He's not fast and thats okay, even at his pro day the muscles in his legs were about 75% according to the great Dr. Andrews so his 4.7 could probably end up being closer to 4.6 at full health, but he makes up for that lack of straight line speed with the ability to cut on a dime, adjust his body to make the catch, and weave his way through traffic. Would I take him in the first round? Probably not, but if he's there in the 2nd I would give it some serious thought.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:23 PM

Same as Jerry Rice's, just saying.........

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:23 PM

Agreed 100%, hell, wouldnt be shocked if he slipped to the top of the 3rd round. Probably wont happen but wouldnt be shocked either.


No fuging way that's happening. He's going anywhere from 20 to about 40. He's too good at every other part of playing Wide Receiver not to....

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:24 PM

He's also run away from DBS that run faster than that too, just watch games from his Sophomore year.....


I have, Allen isn't fast. He'll make a defender miss on occasion but don't count on Keenan doing that in the NFL. He's a Michael Crabtree.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:26 PM

I have, Allen isn't fast. He'll make a defender miss on occasion but don't count on Keenan doing that in the NFL. He's a Michael Crabtree.


You say that like it's a bad thing. Crabtree had 85 receptions for 1100 yards this season. Allen doesn't have to be "fast" when he can run routes as well as he can, and cut as quick as he can. If you don't think he's going to be able to create enough separation with those tools at the next level then I'm just going to quit debating because there's more to playing WR than straight line speed....


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