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#109 King Taharqa

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:08 PM

Why would you want any team that left your home city to be successful elsewhere?


Why would you want that team back?

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:10 PM

The Sac Kings have been rumored to be moving for about 2-3 years now, their owners had already agreed to sell the team to a group in another state and yet their fans still rabidly support them and come out to the games in droves. And its not like they are a good team.


What about the Sonics? Texans? Winnipeg Jets? Atlanta Thrashers? LA Rams? Etc

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:15 PM

What were the bobcats in attendance TY?

I have to admit I went to 3 games this year. Maybe the most I've ever been to in a bobcats season.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:15 PM

The Sac Kings have been rumored to be moving for about 2-3 years now, their owners had already agreed to sell the team to a group in another state and yet their fans still rabidly support them and come out to the games in droves. And its not like they are a good team.


More talking out of your ass I see.

http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance

Kings are last in attendance in the NBA this year. 27th last year, 29th the year before that. Is that "rabidly supporting" the team or "coming out to the games in droves?" Try doing 5 minutes of research before making outlandish statements that make you look even more foolish.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:17 PM

More talking out of your ass I see.

http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance

Kings are last in attendance in the NBA this year. 27th last year, 29th the year before that. Is that "rabidly supporting" the team or "coming out to the games in droves?" Try doing 5 minutes of research before making outlandish statements that make you look even more foolish.


Lol.
Now he will accuse you of having a confederate flag iPhone case

#114 King Taharqa

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:23 PM

Their attendance is still better than what the Hornets was. They are coming out in droves compared to 01 and 02 in Charlotte. LOL. And I see their mayor Kevin Johnson on TV fighting to keep the team in Sacramento. They're not waiting until 15 years later to cry for their team back. All I see is a couple of proud Panther fans on this message board yapping bout name changes and Hornets nostalgia. No one else cares.

I still gotta go to www.bobcats.com to find out about this team.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:37 PM

Their attendance is still better than what the Hornets was. They are coming out in droves compared to 01 and 02 in Charlotte. LOL. And I see their mayor Kevin Johnson on TV fighting to keep the team in Sacramento. They're not waiting until 15 years later to cry for their team back. All I see is a couple of proud Panther fans on this message board yapping bout name changes and Hornets nostalgia. No one else cares.

I still gotta go to www.bobcats.com to find out about this team.


Really, you manage to not do 2 minutes of research again?

Hornets attendance in 01: 15,010 per game
Hornets attendance in 02: 11,286 per game(Team was officially moving)
Kings attendance in 12: 14,508 per game
Kings attendance in 13: 13,749 per game

Not really a huge disparity there. An average of 1,000 per year of those 2 years was the difference. The team still isn't officially moving from Sacramento. The wasn't much anyone could do once George Shinn went nuts. Asking for a new arena only 12 years after the first one was built was completely asinine, and when the city turned it down, they made the right call.

So is this just the way you debate or argue? When proven wrong with facts you just blurt the first thing that comes to you mind and hope that its right? Or do you assume people are just supposed to take your word for it?

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:53 PM

FOH, "team officially moving"

It's always an excuse. You guys are just such the victims. LOL. Where were you in 2002 Munch? Were you bringing back the buzz? Where were you in 2003?

The city could've stepped up if it was all about keeping the Hornets in town and tried to block Shinn. It did nothing. They were gonna build their new arena with or without the Hornets. There was no 'Keep the Buzz" movements that I remember. People just stopped going to the games, they stopped caring. Charlotte was EXCiTED about the prospect of a "new" team when it was announced we would be getting another franchise. The Panthers were also gaining steam at that time, so thats another reason people wasnt as interested. No one cried about keeping the Hornets here. Now all this revisionism on message boards aint added up to a hill of beans. 11,000 is DREADFUL!!!

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 04:04 PM

Did you go to games in the 2001-02 season?

This "revisionism" has gotten the team owner (who is a minority, I do believe) to say the Hornets "sound good."

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 04:12 PM

FOH, "team officially moving"

It's always an excuse. You guys are just such the victims. LOL. Where were you in 2002 Munch? Were you bringing back the buzz? Where were you in 2003?

The city could've stepped up if it was all about keeping the Hornets in town and tried to block Shinn. It did nothing. They were gonna build their new arena with or without the Hornets. There was no 'Keep the Buzz" movements that I remember. People just stopped going to the games, they stopped caring. Charlotte was EXCiTED about the prospect of a "new" team when it was announced we would be getting another franchise. The Panthers were also gaining steam at that time, so thats another reason people wasnt as interested. No one cried about keeping the Hornets here. Now all this revisionism on message boards aint added up to a hill of beans. 11,000 is DREADFUL!!!


Where was I in 2002? Going to about 30-35 of our home games. I went to over 30 home games a year since I was around 11(1996) until they moved(family had season tickets). And once again, Shinn had already made up his mind that the team was leaving, anything short of building a new arena would have been a waste of time with him. You can't seem to grasp the concept that the city wanted a divorce from Shinn, not the Hornets. It just turned out that the juice was not worth the squeeze. MJ tried to buy a large stake in the Hornets before they left Charlotte(presumably to keep the team here, given that he later purchased the Bobcats), only to be turned down.

Yes people were excited about the prospect of getting a new team, that was before we knew that Bob Johnson would come with it. Low and behold he ran the organization into the ground, and reportedly sold the team for roughly half of what he paid for the expansion.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 04:28 PM

You can't seem to grasp the concept that the city wanted a divorce from Shinn, not the Hornets.


Nope, they wanted a divorce from the Hornets. Thats why they didnt fight to keep the team name in the city. All the players they had that kept getting arrested for DUIs, the Bobby Phills tragedy, the fact the team never kept its stars and peaked in 1st rounds turned people off to the team. Not to mention Shinn's rape trial that aired on CourtTV. The Hornets were a stain to Charlotte sports at the time, and we wanted to rid ourselves of the cancer.

It just turned out that the juice was not worth the squeeze. MJ tried to buy a large stake in the Hornets before they left Charlotte(presumably to keep the team here, given that he later purchased the Bobcats), only to be turned down.


As I said, without Bob Johnson, Michael Jordan would not be in ownership. He'd be a GM again at best. That was not the last time either Michael "attempted" to buy his way into ownership in the NBA before he came to the Bobcats.

Yes people were excited about the prospect of getting a new team, that was before we knew that Bob Johnson would come with it. Low and behold he ran the organization into the ground, and reportedly sold the team for roughly half of what he paid for the expansion.


At least your honest. We all wanted Larry Bird, the great hope, and when it was announced Bob Johnson, BET founder was awarded the team it was like all the hot air went out the balloon! How could something like this happen in Dubbya Era America? It was a travesty. The worst thing that ever happened to Charlotte. Carruth who? Bob Johnson was the worst!

When Bob sold the team it was in the playoffs in 2010. The home playoff games sold out VERY QUICKLY. Bob paid for and hired the best coach this team has ever had. Bob paid for and re-signed the best talent we've ever had. He did not "run the organization into the ground". And unlike the Hornets his wish was for the team to remain in Charlotte even after he sold it. The Bobcats never ditched this city like the Hornets did.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:25 PM

How the hell is this guy a Mod?

I nominate Josh Morgan for new mod when the change is official.

Any 2nds?