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Tavon Austin Wonderlic score: 7

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SCP    30,419

Now, if he scores bad, is lazy, is not a film junkie.... Then a red flag should be thrown.

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rayzor    10,716

I do believe that the Wonderlic is over-rated. But, there is a lot more to being a good WR than being able to run and catch. His intelligence is a valid concern as it does give some insight into his ability to learn and grasp the playbook.

no. all it really does is show that a team might have to alter the way it teaches the playbook, which, again ,isn't that big of a deal esp. if you think the ability is there.

all i want to see is prior growth and ability to learn and be coached. if they have that, then you have what you need.

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rayzor    10,716

Can he learn a Pro level offense is the question.

wonderlic isn't going to show one way or the other his ability to do that.

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TheRumGone    14,355

no. all it really does is show that a team might have to alter the way it teaches the playbook, which, again ,isn't that big of a deal esp. if you think the ability is there.

all i want to see is prior growth and ability to learn and be coached. if they have that, then you have what you need.

Yep. Some players have learning disabilities and need more time to learn the playbook. A timed test doesn't benefit them. If they have proven that they work hard, then I have no problem.

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rayzor    10,716

Yep. Some players have learning disabilities and need more time to learn the playbook. A timed test doesn't benefit them. If they have proven that they work hard, then I have no problem.

100% agreed. and having a learning disability doesn't make you retarded and doing poorly on timed tests doesn't make you stupid or even show that you've got a learning disability. all it shows is how well they can do in timed tests. the best assessment is one that shows real work done and practical application in real or even mock setting, and in conversations, not sitting at a desk being asked questions.

not everyone demonstrates knowledge the same way. not everyone learns the same way.

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PantherMan89    279

Yep. Some players have learning disabilities and need more time to learn the playbook. A timed test doesn't benefit them. If they have proven that they work hard, then I have no problem.

This. And the article with one scout said exactly this and said it wasn't a major concern for him with tavon because he had the drive to be great

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rayzor    10,716

what really pisses me off is that the information was leaked to the public. no one needs to know that stuff. no one needs to know about how well they took a test except potential employers.

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MadHatter    9,513

I think that most of the posts here have validity.

The Wonderlic is one data point that should be evaluated. Much like the 40 times, some people put way too much stock in it or completely disregard it.

To me, you use this data point...tape...interviews...greaseboard work...etc to evaluate a both a players current knowledge of the game AND their likely ability to quickly learn a very complex pro offense.

If a player scores very low, I don't think you take them off your board. But, I do think it is something that should make you go back to tape to evaluate. And, may provide some insight into the type of interview you will have.

If they score low, I would quiz them pretty hard using the greaseboard to gleen their true understanding of the formations and game.

Just a thought.

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Black    2,107

This was from yesterday, and was quickly taken down:

@ GottliebShow Tavon Austin scored a 7 on his Wonderlic, that's not sweat on his jersey,that is drool

Tasteless not because it makes fun of Austin, but because of who he is comparing him to.

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SCP    30,419

He is smarter than most on this board

Yea, but a corn filled turd is smarter than most on this board.

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