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Kevin Greene

Tavon Austin Wonderlic score: 7

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My Wonderlic test for WRs:

Can you catch football?

Can you run with football?

Can you run in a specific pattern/route?

Can you grab the guy in front of you and put yourself between him and the ball-carrier at times?

If the answer is yes to all of these, that is good enough for me.

ask them about their playbook. give them gruden QB camp type questions about certain plays. you know...relevant stuff.

giving them a mini SAT is silly.

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I worked with a client company who were looking to acquire another company. They investigated the average weight of employees and whether people parked nose in or nose out.

Every data point is considered.

Nobody is saying it is going to be the driver on draft day but if a team is waffling on a player, a wonderlich score could be the final data point that makes the decision go one way or the other. Or that combined with other similar points.

I'm sure some teams that run more complex playbooks put more weight in this.

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I worked with a client company who were looking to acquire another company. They investigated the average weight of employees and whether people parked nose in or nose out.

Every data point is considered.

Nobody is saying it is going to be the driver on draft day but if a team is waffling on a player, a wonderlich score could be the final data point that makes the decision go one way or the other. Or that combined with other similar points.

I'm sure some teams that run more complex playbooks put more weight in this.

Thats the issues with most companies today. They look at the data and not the person.

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"Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."

Albert Einstein -

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I haven't but I am a natural test taker.

Sure there could have been any number of factors that gave him a bad score. But this is supposed to be a guy in college...

WVU. I'm not even sure the regular students would do much better than a 7.

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That test is pretty damn easy. They aren't asking advanced calculus or anything, the questions are very basic. A 7 means you're drooling on yourself and can't figure out how to open a childproof bottle of medicine. Kudos to West Virginia University for the great education and high admission standards.

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Meh...

BTW. How many people would've killed to have MoClay last year? What was his score? I know most of us think the wonderlic doesn't mean poo...cuz it doesn't.

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A wonderlic score really measures your ability to think abstractly and reason sequentially. It also measures your speed of mental processing. It is related to some forms of intelligence but is surely not the only measure. I think that the chalkboard work they do with receivers as well as talking to his other coaches about how well he picked up plays and new concepts is a more valid measure of his football acumen. Should it be considered? Yes. Should it be a determining factor? Not really.

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when you have test anxiety or just don't test well, it doesn't matter how much you study for something, you're probably not going to do well. the more pressure put on that one test and having it be a timed test makes it worse.

fortunately the league as a whole doesn't put a whole lot of emphasis on this one test. i think people on the outside make more of it than the league does. if some teams/gms make it a big deal, their loss.

and i don't think it drops him at all. a team won't decide whether or not to take austin or patterson based on that silly thing. if they had any concerns whatsoever and any real interest in him, they would have brought him in for a visit, like we did...but deciding to take him at any spot? nah. unless they were nitpicking in the way they might in considering his vert or wingspan or something it's just not something that they are going to knock a guy on.

Obviously nobody's dropping him off of their board based on one test. But when you're comparing players, intelligence has a small part in the rankings. It's not dropping him a lot, and the score is combined with the impression that the player gives off during his meetings, but it matters some. Too many people are saying it doesn't matter at all. That's not true. Remember all the glowing stories about Kuechly and his intelligence?

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