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#211 carolina-chuck

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 06:19 AM

I like it!
Give me Kenny (1) and Keenan/Reid/Banks (2).

What about Mike Glennon. Where will he go? ;)

#212 MadHatter

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 07:20 AM

I think if Tavon Austin is available at 14, of course you have to consider him. He will contribute as a wide receiver, runningback, and return specialist, immediately upgrading 3 positions.

The Vaccaro pick I don't think is really in play as much. He may be a fall back option, but I don't see him as being in true contention at 14 with some of the other guys likely to be there. Just my opinion.


Problem is that we don't need help at the return specialist or RB position right now.


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Posted 20 April 2013 - 07:27 AM

Texas and WVU played last year and Vaccaro covered Tavon Austin in the slot. It wasn't pretty for Tavon. Vaccaro flat out put Austin on lock down. Tavon I think is a tad bit overrated. His size scares the living crap out of me. Vaccaro's game against Tavon Austin is his calling card. Vaccaro isn't a perfect prospect at this point in time but the flaws in his game are correctable. Vaccaro can provide you with a lot of versatility. Gil Brandt.thinks he's just as good as Mark Barron from last year. We're going against the best tight ends in the league this year so having a guy that can make things tough on them is a priority I would imagine. Atlanta=Gonzales, Saints=Jimmy Graham, San Fran=Vernon Davis, Pats=Gronk.



Week 6: West Virginia's Tavon Austin caught 10 passes for 102 yards and a touchdown, rushed once for six yards, returned one punt for 3 yards and three kickoffs for 111 yards in the Mountaineers 48-45 win at Texas on Oct. 6.



So Tavon is so dynamic, that holding him to only 102 yards and a TD is locking him down???


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Posted 20 April 2013 - 07:32 AM

Problem is that we don't need help at the return specialist or RB position right now.



Ginns only on a one year deal. And was a smart pick up, because if you dont get a guy in the draft, you have an insurance policy. Also DLo may be gone after this season. Could cover a lot of ground next season...




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Posted 20 April 2013 - 07:40 AM

last good texas safety to come in draft as high ranked as Kenny was Earl Thomas...just sayin'

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:11 AM

Live in Texas, so watched that WVU/Tex game (not a fan of either team-go gamecocks) and I'm pretty sure they put him on Austin in the second half after most the damage was done. So if you actually break it down, Austin had one big 40 yard TD in the first half, and baily did all the work in the second out side of some big kick returns (which isn't Vaccaro"s fault). Just saying.. You can't look at box scores to tell what really happened.



#217 carolina-chuck

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:12 AM

last good texas safety to come in draft as high ranked as Kenny was Earl Thomas...just sayin'


Earl Thomas was drafted 14 overall by Seattle. For whatever reason, we also have the 14 Pick next Thursday. What a coincidence.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:14 AM

Live in Texas, so watched that WVU/Tex game (not a fan of either team-go gamecocks) and I'm pretty sure they put him on Austin in the second half after most the damage was done. So if you actually break it down, Austin had one big 40 yard TD in the first half, and baily did all the work in the second out side of some big kick returns (which isn't Vaccaro"s fault). Just saying.. You can't look at box scores to tell what really happened.


Good break down.
If my man Vaccaro can really lock down my man Tavon, he's 14 worthy! ;)

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:15 AM

I believe if Austin is there, it needs to be him.

Ask yourselves, what is the single point of failure on the Panthers roster?

IMHO, it is Steve Smith. If Smith goes down, who stretches the field? Look at Atlanta, New Orleans, they have viable speed on the outside if their prime receiver goes down. Does the Panthers? ...and for the love of God, please don't say Gettis.

I believe football is won with 'big Mollies' as well. It begins and ends in the lines, but the Panthers have failed for years to adequately address the single point of failure that is Steve Smith and this year, they have the draft position to possibly do it, they need to act now.

Smith is one step away from ending his career both figurative and literally, and as much as we all love Steve, we saw him drop balls he would have caught 3-4 years ago, to not get into the end zone the way he would have 3 years ago.

Think about it.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:15 AM

Did he really say that? Vaccaro and Barron are very different safeties.


Seriously, Cyprien and Barron is a much better comparison....

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:19 AM

Good break down.
If my man Vaccaro can really lock down my man Tavon, he's 14 worthy! ;)


I went back and looked it up, only 26 of his 101 yards came in the second half.. Sound shut down to me..

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:21 AM

Live in Texas, so watched that WVU/Tex game (not a fan of either team-go gamecocks) and I'm pretty sure they put him on Austin in the second half after most the damage was done. So if you actually break it down, Austin had one big 40 yard TD in the first half, and baily did all the work in the second out side of some big kick returns (which isn't Vaccaro"s fault). Just saying.. You can't look at box scores to tell what really happened.



So 40 yds the first half and 62yds the second?


Edit: seen your op.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:21 AM

Seriously, Cyprien and Barron is a much better comparison....


Vaccaro is pretty damn good too. I think people likes Vaccaro more than Barron last year. Barron wasnt talked about being a top 10 pick till close to the Draft. Vaccaro have pretty much been the consensus no.1 safety the whole entire time leading up to now. Vaccaro may not be a top 10 pick bc of how this draft is set up (heavy OLINE). But, Vaccaro is a top10 pick. Like the poster posted above, his flaws are very correctable (tackling). And this is a very good Safety class. Baldinger said this is the best safety class in a long time. Wasn't so much last year in Barron's draft.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:22 AM

Maybe that is the point, he demanded specific coverage to shut him down and thus others had an opportunity.

Tavon in the slot or opposite Smith, Olsen, LaFell and our running backs and QB, pick your poison.

The division Panhers are in, best be able to score points.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:22 AM

Week 6: West Virginia's Tavon Austin caught 10 passes for 102 yards and a touchdown, rushed once for six yards, returned one punt for 3 yards and three kickoffs for 111 yards in the Mountaineers 48-45 win at Texas on Oct. 6.



So Tavon is so dynamic, that holding him to only 102 yards and a TD is locking him down???




you guys are scaring the crap out of me with this Vaccaro talk cause it's looking almost certain he'll be the pick. Everything I've read this morning has Austin gone long before us.

Founds this on SI about Vaccaro


"Kenny Vaccaro is a highly impressive athlete and is one of the most complete safety prospects to enter the NFL the past several years. His elite speed and explosiveness allows him to make plays all over the field vs. the run and pass, and his agility and smoothness allow him to play under control despite playing at such a high speed. His most impressive effort this season came against West Virginia, when he went man-to-man for much of the night vs. the explosive and elusive Tavon Austin and more than held his own. He is outstanding on run plays outside the box, as he takes excellent angles to the boundary and is able to stay square to his target and finish effectively in space. His ability to slide down and play nickel back only adds to his value at the next level, as coverage ability is paramount for safeties in today's NFL which is so often based on spreading the field and exposing isolated match-ups. I fully expect Vaccaro to hear his name called on day one of the draft, as he is clearly one of the top defensive backs in this class.

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