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#31 Brokenbad

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 03:39 PM

Nuh uh, lets just turn off injuries and salary cap.



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Posted 19 April 2013 - 03:44 PM

Ultimately I want Gettleman to put his 30+ years of experience as a talent evaluator to work and find us the BPA with each of our 5 picks... I'll trust his judgement until he gives me reason to think otherwise.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 03:45 PM

He's the only safety with even close to a top 15 draft value right now.

Elam is positioned around 30th with Cyprien around 34th or so.

Your talking about the 15th rated prospect compared to two guys rated in the 30's.

It's a pretty big difference.

The only one who had a chance to catch Vaccaro was Cyprien and that was if he ran great through his drills and had solid interviews.

His drills were sub par and I haven't heard any glaringly positive reviews on his interviews either. So he fell back down into the second round because of that.



I know where he's rated (which doesn't mean much) that's why I think he is severely overrated. As I've said, seen more bad, than good in his play, IMO.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 03:47 PM

Ultimately I want Gettleman to put his 30+ years of experience as a talent evaluator to work and find us the BPA with each of our 5 picks... I'll trust his judgement until he gives me reason to think otherwise.



This.


If he decides on Vacarro, I'll be pissed, but I'll get over it.

#35 firstdayfan

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 03:51 PM

Ummm....what's the plan at defensive tackle?

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 03:51 PM

I know where he's rated (which doesn't mean much) that's why I think he is severely overrated. As I've said, seen more bad, than good in his play, IMO.


Agreed. Where he is rated by "experts" and where is rated by coaching staffs and front offices could be quite different. We nor the draft analysts were in the interviews with him, on the white board with him, and weren't working out with him privately.

#37 The Golden Child

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 03:52 PM

That we will take Tavon Austin if he is available, and if he is not Kenny Vacarro is a very good bet.

As some of you know my source tends to be very reliable and I generally only make one of these every year around draft time. Last year I was told that we were deciding between Coples and Kuechly, and that Bruce Irvin would go in the first.

Also some things he has told me:
DJ Hayden will go in the top 15
EJ Manuel will go in the first round
Matt Elam should be the second safety off the board
Keenan Allen will not go in the first, Justin Hunter should go ahead of him
The Panthers are looking at Arthur Brown/Quinton Patton/Robert Alfrod/Eric Reid/Jonathan Banks in the 2nd
Eddie Lacey probably won't drop to the 2nd


Just throwing some things out there for you guys.


great stuff. interesting that we're not looking at DT.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 03:56 PM

Trust in Gettleman until proven otherwise.

Even if it is Vacarro...it's a big upgrade over what we currently have.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 03:56 PM

great stuff. interesting that we're not looking at DT.



You may be putting too much stock in people's "sources".

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 03:56 PM

AJ Green and his 10 would also agree with you.

hakeem nicks-12
percy harvin-12
cj spiller-10
frank gore- 6
julio jones-15
adrian peterson-16
morris claiborne-4
chris johnson-10
donovan mcnabb-14
ray lewis-13
dan marino-15

#41 Verge

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 03:57 PM

You may be putting too much stock in people's "sources".

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#42 h0llywood

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 04:00 PM

Is the name of your source begin with Twitt and end with er?

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 04:03 PM

Kenny Vaccaro can play. I don't understand the bust talk. Every game tape I watch on him he is playing NFL caliber football on a high school level defense. If we pick him, he will be able to help us with the TEs we have in our division. The only problem I have with Vaccaro is that he didn't seem as excited about visiting us as he was with other teams. All I can ask for a prospect is that he wants to be here and that he doesn't have major injury problems (Keenan Allen!)

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 04:09 PM

He's the only safety with even close to a top 15 draft value right now.

Elam is positioned around 30th with Cyprien around 34th or so.

Your talking about the 15th rated prospect compared to two guys rated in the 30's.

It's a pretty big difference.

The only one who had a chance to catch Vaccaro was Cyprien and that was if he ran great through his drills and had solid interviews.

His drills were sub par and I haven't heard any glaringly positive reviews on his interviews either. So he fell back down into the second round because of that.


If this is true, I guess we have no choice but to hope a pray that Austin is still there in the first. Much rather have Cyprien, (who will definately not make it out of the first round) and it's not even close. Just my .02

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 04:11 PM

would be fine with either. don't get the vaccaro hate on here, dude can play


He can't tackle and his coverage skills are overhyped.


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