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MadHatter    9,501

Offense is not an issue because we put up good numbers in some of the games???

We faced two really god defensive fronts (Denver and NY) and guess what, they killed us. This does not mean we have to spend the first rounder on offense, but lets not kid ourselves and pretend that we don´t have holes on both sides of the ball.

the bigger issue in the Denver and NY games were the fact that the OLine could not protect Cam...nor open holes.

So, if you want to improve the offense.....a pick at OT or OG would be more beneficial than a slot WR.

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csx    6,967

Breaking fuging news here. I mean, really? This had to be reported.

Yes, yes it did.

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Mr. Scot    34,531

I would love to trade up as long as we keep out second rounder id be fine to go DT then WR

With only five picks in the entire draft, trading up is not a realistic scenario.

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ARSEN    9,453

To MH:

Yes, u r right. He's Wes Welker type of player. New England runs vertical down the field attacking offense that causes many single and zone coverages on Welker. That's what I meant. In vertical attacks many times safeties will play deep and that's when good slot WR will eat you up. Jets don't run the same offense, means safeties will be near the box. Austin will not be as productive.

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Jackofalltrades    9,326

Would anyone be upset with a trade up ? Say, Jets' 9 for Star.

This is the ONLY scenario where I'd be ok with trading up, but only a few spots.

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With only five picks in the entire draft, trading up is not a realistic scenario.

Probably not but depending on which picks we have to give up we might want quality over quantity

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MadHatter    9,501

To MH:

Yes, u r right. He's Wes Welker type of player. New England runs vertical down the field attacking offense that causes many single and zone coverages on Welker. That's what I meant. In vertical attacks many times safeties will play deep and that's when good slot WR will eat you up. Jets don't run the same offense, means safeties will be near the box. Austin will not be as productive.

New England gets the majority of its production out of Welker and the TE's. Their down the field targets are more to just try and keep the defense honest and open up the short game.

That is different than a true vertical passing game....but I do understand what you are getting at.

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h0llywood    3,564

How many points did we average in our 9 losses? Fwiw, we were in the bottom half of the leage in points scored last year, despite getting to play New Orleans twice.

I am not saying that we should necessarily pick a receiver and fwiw, I don't really like any of the potential picks at receiver. But getting a number 1 receiver is something we are going to have to address either thru the draft or free agency this year or next, because Steve Smith isn't getting any younger.

A lot of those numbers are attributed to a crappy first half of the season and questionable play calling by Chud(too much damn read option):

First 8 games

18 ppg - 2w - 6L

Last 8 games

26 ppg - 5w - 3L

Your point is valid and cannot refute the fact that they couldn't score early on. I'm just being an optimist and saying that our offense will play more like the second half of the season than they did the first.

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h0llywood    3,564

Offense is not an issue because we put up good numbers in some of the games???

We faced two really god defensive fronts (Denver and NY) and guess what, they killed us. This does not mean we have to spend the first rounder on offense, but lets not kid ourselves and pretend that we don´t have holes on both sides of the ball.

Against Atlanta (28), Chicago (22), Tampa Bay (22) and Kansas City (21), the offense was able to go north of 21 points. All these games were losses.

The team only failed to reach 21 points 5 times and those were early in the season. As the season progressed, so did the offense.There's no question that there are holes on both sides (I don't even know when or who ever said there wasn't?) of the ball but i think it's fairly obvious that DT is the most glaring position to be filled.

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top dawg    8,667

Would anyone be upset with a trade up ? Say, Jets' 9 for Star.

If he's there at 9, I would definitely think about it. But with only five picks, I don't know. I'd only be willing to give up the 6 or 7 (5?), and I don't think they'd take it.

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SOJA    5,352

It's going to be a long waiting period. He might go as early to the Raiders at 3.

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Dash Global    139

One sexy draft would be Star and Short DT problem sloved.

based on the 2012 almost won games, with 2 elite DTs the road to the superbowl will be open again.

Best NT and UT in the draft. Hell to the yea.

Then snag Duke Williams in the 4th.

Star

Short

Williams

OL depth

OL depth

Please Lord.

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