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#109 carpanfan96

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 12:42 AM

Please!! Hunter is taller almost as fast better football IQ. Better route runner knows how to high point a ball. Is a better deep threat and doesn't have the question about maturity and work ethic that Patterson does.

One is a athlete playing WR and one is a actual WR.





Like I said before you go here and see the rankings, Hunter is moving up boards because of his interviews. He's acing them, he still doesn't go ahead of Patterson though. He's got just as many question marks about him as Patterson. Take a gander at them all.

http://www.cbssports...3/justin-hunter

] Strengths: Hunter is a tall, long athlete with an exception catching radius and reach. He is a fluid, gliding mover with long strides and deceiving speed to get vertical or make plays after the catch. He has strong footwork in/out of his breaks with sharp route quickness to sell patterns and create some separation. He tracks the ball beautifully, adjusting with outstanding body control.[/size]

Hunter does a nice job becoming a DB downfield to knock balls away and prevent the INT. He has the size/speed combination to attract defensive holding and pass interference penalties in his routes. Hunter has experience lining up as an X, Y and Z receiver, lining up all over the offense for Tennessee.

He had a productive 2012 season as one of only four SEC receivers to surpass 1,000 receiving yards, finishing third in receiving yards (1,083) and touchdown grabs (9). Despite just 17 career starts, Hunter finishes his Tennessee career ranked top-five in career 100-yard receiving games (8) and touchdown catches (18).

Weaknesses: Hunter has a lean body type from head to toe and needs to add more strength and bulk, but lacks the frame to easily put on weight. He isn't overly explosive after the catch and is a little straight-linish, lacking flexible ankles and needing a moment when changing his directions. Hunter plays rushed and needs to stay under control in his routes and when locating the ball.

He needs to eliminate some bad habits, playing wild at times, jumping when he doesn't need to and losing yardage when he reverses his field trying to do too much. Hunter lacks natural hands to corral fastballs and is too inconsistent catching the ball with a lot of body catches and double catches. He needs to secure grabs and doesn't always look the ball into his hands or locate, battling streaky hand/eye coordination.

Hunter gets obviously frustrated by off-target throws and too often he lets poor body language show, needing to stay focused for all four quarters and keep his emotions in-check. He needs to be more aggressive on 50/50 and jump balls and how better conviction, often lacking the physicality to consistently out-muscle most defensive backs.

Hunter often has some alligator arms over the middle with defenders bearing down on him and needs to sell out for catches. He lacks the build to break tackles, but he needs to play tougher instead of giving up his body or escaping out of bounds. Hunter holds the ball too loose after the catch and needs to protect the ball.

He has some durability concerns because of his lean build, including a torn ACL in his left knee (Sept. 17, 2011). Hunter struggled against top competition in 2012 with just 2 of his 9 touchdowns coming against SEC foes and his 4 100-yard receiving performances were against Georgia State, Akron, Troy and Missouri.

Compares To: Mix of AJ Green, Bengals/Brian Quick, Rams - Like Green, Hunter is a tall, athletic receiver with very good speed and length for the position, but like Quick, he is also unpolished in several areas, including inconsistent hands.





http://www.cbssports...relle-patterson

STRENGTHS: Patterson has a solidly-built frame with good height and length. He is a fluid athlete with good initial burst and strength to release to the inside and gain separation in single coverage. Patterson knows how to create with excellent vision, controlled footwork and speed, showing excellent change of direction and a strong plant foot to make elusive, sharp cuts.

He has a natural feel with the ball in his hands, making defenders miss with quickness to weave through defenses. Patterson is tough, confident ballcarrier and runs with the belief that no one can tackle him, powering through arm tackles and allowing defenders to slide off of him.

He has very good strength for the position to use his body, box out defenders and make contested grabs, out-muscling defensive backs. Patterson has quick hands and natural adjustment skills to make impressive catches on off-target throws. His coaches rave about his football intelligence and his competitive nature, playing focused and fiery.

Patterson has been extremely productive at both the JUCO level and Tennessee, setting over a dozen school records at Hutchinson C.C. including career receptions (113), career receiving yards (1,832) and career total touchdowns (36). He was also productive in track at the JUCO level with a 10.33 100-meter dash and 22' long jump.

Patterson finished second on the team in receiving in 2012 and set a new Tennessee record for all-purpose yards (1,858), leading the team with 10 touchdowns (5 receiving, 3 rushing, 1 punt return and 1 kick return).

WEAKNESSES: Patterson is still developing as a route-runner and will tip his patterns at times. He is a natural hands-catcher, but will have some concentration lapses and drop some easy ones, running before securing the reception.

Patterson needs to scale back his physicality downfield, often extending his arms downfield against tight coverage and getting away with some push-offs. He has a bad habit of stopping his feet when running room isn't there, always searching for the home run instead of taking what's there.

Patterson has made some mistakes on punt returns, allowing the ball to go over his head or catching the punt too close to the goal line. He has just one year of experience at the FBS-level, albeit a productive one season.

COMPARES TO: Mix of Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City Chiefs and Nate Burleson, Detroit Lions - Patterson has a similar frame and physical downfield nature as Bowe with the speed and quickness of Burleson to contribute as a return man.







Please come back to me when you know something about football, Hunter doesn't have a better IQ, he's not a better catcher. Patterson is stronger and quicker off the line and better against the press, has more natural hands and is better at tracking the ball on off target throws.

Geez your natural bias is ridiculous and retarded. I don't care who the Panther's pick, I just think that Patterson has the biggest homerun potential in the draft. That's just my opinion and how I feel, doesn't mean I don't like Hunter as a prospect because I do.


I just go off of what I see and that shows that Patterson is a more natural WR then Hunter, yes he needs help on route running, but it's not because of concentration issues like Hunter. Patterson has more upside and will be one of the best WR's in the NFL if he gets route running down while Hunter is going to always struggle against the press because of his frame and strength limitations.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 12:51 AM

I also like Patterson's center of gravity which is common is great after catch guys like Smitty, Dez Bryant, Julio Jones.

I like Hunter but he will be best used as a streak sprinter and will go down quick on first contact.

Either way both would be great Red Zone targets with Patterson being the better Catch in Traffic guy.

Da'rick Rogers is more balanced of the three. Just a possible headcase but other than weed has he done anything serious? He has the most Terrel Owens persona of the bunch.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 12:54 AM

I also like Patterson's center of gravity which is common is great after catch guys like Smitty, Dez Bryant, Julio Jones.

I like Hunter but he will be best used as a streak sprinter and will go down quick on first contact.

Either way both would be great Red Zone targets with Patterson being the better Catch in Traffic guy.

Da'rick Rogers is more balanced of the three. Just a possible headcase but other than weed has he done anything serious? He has the most Terrel Owens persona of the bunch.


I love Rogers in the second or fourth round if he falls, he's got serious boom potential and is a great risk to take in the middle of the draft from late 2nd through the 4th round,

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:11 AM

Like I said before you go here and see the rankings, Hunter is moving up boards because of his interviews. He's acing them, he still doesn't go ahead of Patterson though. He's got just as many question marks about him as Patterson. Take a gander at them all.

http://www.cbssports...3/justin-hunter





http://www.cbssports...relle-patterson








Please come back to me when you know something about football, Hunter doesn't have a better IQ, he's not a better catcher. Patterson is stronger and quicker off the line and better against the press, has more natural hands and is better at tracking the ball on off target throws.

Geez your natural bias is ridiculous and retarded. I don't care who the Panther's pick, I just think that Patterson has the biggest homerun potential in the draft. That's just my opinion and how I feel, doesn't mean I don't like Hunter as a prospect because I do.


I just go off of what I see and that shows that Patterson is a more natural WR then Hunter, yes he needs help on route running, but it's not because of concentration issues like Hunter. Patterson has more upside and will be one of the best WR's in the NFL if he gets route running down while Hunter is going to always struggle against the press because of his frame and strength limitations.



Alright Car you've been with these guy even when it's clear he's dropping in the draft.

I bet you now since you are so sure about Patterson.

1. Hunter cracks the starting line up before he does no matter what team they both go to.

2. Hunter has a better rookie season.

I'm so sure you're going to look so foolish during and after this season.

Get ready for Troy Williamson 2.0.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:19 AM

http://charlotte.cbs...our-marc-james/

Espn scouts .com Kevin Weidl
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:29 AM

http://charlotte.cbs...our-marc-james/

Espn scouts .com Kevin Weidl
Hour 4
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I can't listen to that garbage this late at night with my wife asleep behind me on the bed. So give me a recap, it won't hurt my feelings what weidl has to say.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:30 AM

Alright Car you've been with these guy even when it's clear he's dropping in the draft.

I bet you now since you are so sure about Patterson.

1. Hunter cracks the starting line up before he does no matter what team they both go to.

2. Hunter has a better rookie season.

I'm so sure you're going to look so foolish during and after this season.

Get ready for Troy Williamson 2.0.



You want to make an avatar bet on this? I'll take the bet that Patterson has more of an effect on his team then Hunter does. That's even with the likely possibility that Hunter goes to a much better team late in the first.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:36 AM

You want to make an avatar bet on this? I'll take the bet that Patterson has more of an effect on his team then Hunter does. That's even with the likely possibility that Hunter goes to a much better team late in the first.



Once again it's on. It's a bet.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 05:25 AM

Well, at least some things never change.

Like....two people can't have a logical discussion on here without it turning into a pissing match.



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Posted 25 April 2013 - 07:44 AM

Mayock sucks

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 08:35 AM

Some people question Star's effort and also point to the fact that Stsr took a year off from football while in college. I like Star, but someone that truly loves the game doesn't take a year off.

Richardson on the other hand is known for going 110% on every play.

I'll leave it to the experts to say who is better, but Mayock is one of the experts that has questioned Stars love for the game. I suspect that is why he has him going later. Go online and read his player bios if you care.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 05:26 PM

People Dno the difference between a NT and an UT. You think a DT is a DT. Theyve been brainwashed by Suh. Many wouldn't know if Suh was an UT or NT.

I know the difference.