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#1 g5jamz

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 09:50 AM

http://www.wral.com/...er-id/12376662/

Raleigh, N.C. — Presenting photo identification before being able to vote in North Carolina moved a step closer to reality Wednesday when the House approved a Republican-backed proposal.
House Bill 589 passed on an 81-36 vote and now moves to the Senate.
"Our system of government depends on open and honest elections," said Rep. David Lewis, R-Harnett. "Having people prove they are who they say they are makes sense."
The bill, dubbed the Voter Information Verification Act, or VIVA, would require IDs with every election held after January 2016. It would allow people to present various state-issued IDs, such as public university IDs and state employee IDs, but private university IDs would not qualify.
A Democrat attempt to amend the bill to allow private school IDs failed mostly on a party-line vote, as did a series of other amendments that would have allowed people without a photo ID more leeway to cast a ballot.
One proposed amendment would have allowed people to cast provisional ballots and provide other identifying information for local elections officials to confirm their identities and count their votes during a canvass. Another would have allowed poll workers who personally know any voter to verify their identity.
"Voting is a right, but it's also a responsibility to do it intelligently," said Rep. Ruth Samuelson, R-Mecklenburg, who noted that people will have more than two years to get an ID before it's required in an election.
Republican sponsors did back amendments that allow tribal cards to be used as official IDs – they had struck the tribal cards from the list a week ago – and exempt people from the ID requirement following the declaration of a natural disaster.
Rep. Darren Jackson, D-Wake, tried to have the legislation apply the same ID standards to mail-in absentee voting, saying it's far easier to cast a fraudulent vote by mail than in person.
Under the bill, absentee voters would have to provide a driver's license number, the final four digits of a Social Security number or other federally-approved identification documents, such as a copy of a utility bill, with their mail-in ballot.


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Republican sponsors already eliminated the requirement that people would have to attest under the penalty of perjury to "financial hardship" in order to get a free voter ID. The bill approved by the House allows anyone who needs a photo ID to get one for free.

Approved forms of IDs that have expired would be accepted up to 10 years from their date of issuance or date of expiration, whichever is later. For voters over 70, a photo ID that was valid at the time they were 70 will be considered valid indefinitely.
People with religious objections to having their photo taken also are allowed to notify elections officials at least 25 days before an election so that would be noted in the voter rolls.


Fends off any constitutional issue with "poll tax" resemblence. Also deals with elderly with expired licenses.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 09:52 AM

Sounds reasonable

#3 g5jamz

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:24 AM

http://www.elon.edu/...oll_voterID.pdf

Seems to have wide appeal too.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 08:34 PM

So did poll taxes. Dress it up all you want, everyone here knows why it's being done. Even a denial addict like G5 knows why this is happening.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:10 AM

This isn't a poll tax.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:16 AM

If you can't beat 'em join suppress 'em.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:19 AM

Pretty sure they beatem already...who's in control?

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:22 AM

now that's the attitude our Founding Fathers expected when they created this great land of ours

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:34 AM

alright so the solution without a problem skirts the spirit of the law just a tick less

i wonder why we haven't gotten cracking on absentee ballot fraud yet considering that there are hundreds of cases of that every year


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Among the failed Democratic amendments were measures to accept private college ID, allow poll workers to vouch for the identity of voters and require either a driver's license or a notarized attestation for absentee ballots.



#10 g5jamz

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:57 AM

now that's the attitude our Founding Fathers expected when they created this great land of ours


Yeah...they only really wanted elections held on one day. Racist bastages.

#11 g5jamz

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:59 AM

alright so the solution without a problem skirts the spirit of the law just a tick less

i wonder why we haven't gotten cracking on absentee ballot fraud yet considering that there are hundreds of cases of that every year


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There were some absentee things in it...but I don't know what's required currently to receive an absentee ballot. The poll worker knowing someone amendment was probably one of the stupidest amendments I've ever seen.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:23 AM

See G5 only knows that there are voters out there voting illegally without IDs, he just can't actually prove it or point to data about it. Everything else he doesn't know about.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:28 AM

Looks...sees if CWG said anything. Nope.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:46 AM

Pretty sure they beatem already...who's in control?

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This is more about beating them in the future thanks to changing demographics in NC. IN case you haven't noticed Republicans are in full out panic mode and are trying to figure out ways to game the system instead of adjusting their platform and letting democracy work the way it is supposed to.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 11:37 AM

hey teeray you didn't say anything

there i win


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