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#25 cookinwithgas

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 08:26 AM

twylight, I know this sucks for you but waiting a predetermined amount of time before re declaring an incorrect statement as correct only works on conservative talk shows.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:14 AM

Poor kids... your head is going to explode before you squeeze an original thought of it...

Meanwhile in the original point, Congress is looking to yet again exempt itself from the rules that everyone else must abide by


Again, to the original point, no they are not. They are trying to ensure that they can operate the same way that every other employer can.

They aren't trying to exempt themselves from Obamacare or the rules of the bill.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:00 AM

Yet, somehow they bear the lion's share of the national "revenue".... huh... how did that happen?


*take

#28 twylyght

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 01:05 PM

It is unreal that anyone actually believes that congressmen actually live by the same rules as the people they govern.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 03:05 PM

Do you think that the rich live by the same rules as the poor?

I don't know that anyone with power lives by the same rules as those without it.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 06:15 PM

Do you think that the rich live by the same rules as the poor?

I don't know that anyone with power lives by the same rules as those without it.


That makes a congressman's hypocrisy different.... how?

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:39 PM

wouldn't it just be a good step in the right direction and show solidarity with the people who voted for congress to go ahead and have the same plan?
would there be any harm in that?

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:44 PM

wouldn't it just be a good step in the right direction and show solidarity with the people who voted for congress to go ahead and have the same plan?
would there be any harm in that?


oh look another poster who ignored teeray's effort post about this

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:54 PM

no i saw teerays post and im with him on that.

now we have changed gears and maybe the inertia was too much for you.

what is the harm in them getting in on the same plan? break it down cant. line item it for me as it pertains to the debt and the constituion.

im not saying they are thinking they are above anyone but what is the downside in being on the same plan.

easy question.

#34 mav1234

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:09 PM

I will copy the relevant part of Teeray's post from page 1 that should answer that, pstall:

So whereas other employers never have to use the exchanges at all, and have the ability to use other insurances, Congress cannot. So once this goes into effect, because of this amendment, Congress would not be able to contribute to the staff's insurance until 2017.

That is completely different than in the private sectors where they continue doing what they are doing now, and in 2017 have the option to participate in the exchanges (if their state allows it).



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:10 PM

as to how it pertains to the debt and the constitution, irrelevant. it's how it pertains to "brain drain" and loss of staffers due to totally unaffordable coverage, which the private sector won't have...

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:21 PM

so the staffers and congress are under their state's jurisdiction or DC?

also a 4 year gap is pretty significant that you would think would have been addressed beforehand.

i mention the debt mav because so many for O care talk up that part and don't really know what they are talking about.