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#196 ThunderKatt

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:13 PM

its insane to feel sorry for some that makes more 2 years than you will earn in a life time.

Apparently he was told to go sit in the corner and color while Rivera and Gettleman go crazy on defense.



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:15 PM

We have to start letting Cam manage games like a Wilson or Kaep than trying to put the game on his shoulder. Play hard defense, run the ball, and manage the offense.

That is not Cam's game, and in my estimation it shouldn't be.


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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:20 PM

Jesus, I'm not even going to argue with a guy who calls a 28 year old tight end playing at a pro bowl level a "middle aged TE the bears were giving away"

The offense is fine, quit being a pussy.

We were specially talking about drafting young players to grow up with their QB.

Olsen is a nice addition for a young guy....bc he is a middle aged vet player. But he is it. That is all they have done for Cam as we approach 3 seasons...

But I won't be responding with you after this post.....when people can't use big boy words and resort to garbage I bail.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:39 PM

That is not Cam's game, and in my estimation it shouldn't be.


How??

Cam's time at Auburn, he depended heavily on a very very good Auburn Defense. He only attempted 280 passes while relying on Michael Dwyer's ground game.

Compare to other QBs:
-Luck attempted 288 (2009), 372 (2010), and 404 (2011)passes while at Standford.
-RG3 attempted 454 (2010) and 402 (2011) at Baylor
-Wilson attempted 378 (2009), 527 (2010), and 309 (2011) passes at State/Wisconsin
-Kaepernick attempted 383 (2009), 282 (2010), and 359 (2010) at Neveda

The only thing different now from Cam's Auburn time is that we explored him and found out that he can be something larger. But, imo I think that's the reason why we're losing so much games. We put the games on his shoulders too much. Teams win games when the QB manage the game. Look what separate Brady's 3x SB rings from Peyton's 1 SB ring. The difference is that Brady is a better game manager than Peyton. Brady rely on other players around him and on the other side of the ball to help him win. Cam is in the same situation as Peyton when he was with INDY. He has to win by himself.

With Chud gone, and us having "three very good backs + a rookie Kenjon Barner", and "Star" + "Short", we need to go back to running the ball, playing hard, tough defense, and let Cam rely on the running game instead of putting the game on his shoulder.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:48 PM

How many of those aforementioned teams had back to back top ten offenses when they made those picks?

and how many of those teams have been to the playoffs? Billick even called Newton the forgotten man before the draft because this team has showed no effort in building around him. the first 3 picks are great, but those last 2 was ??????? when several playmaking WRs and TEs were on the board that could have come in contributed.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:53 PM

and how many of those teams have been to the playoffs? Billick even called Newton the forgotten man before the draft because this team has showed no effort in building around him. the first 3 picks are great, but those last 2 was ??????? when several playmaking WRs and TEs were on the board that could have come in contributed.


agree

#202 beastson

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:58 PM

The 2nd was not great

Assuming we don't make any moves in FA, I feel Cam and the running game will struggle this year. Once again missing the playoffs

Sad part is Marqise Lee will be gone by time we pick next year

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 07:01 PM

and how many of those teams have been to the playoffs? Billick even called Newton the forgotten man before the draft because this team has showed no effort in building around him. the first 3 picks are great, but those last 2 was ??????? when several playmaking WRs and TEs were on the board that could have come in contributed.


He was the forgotten Man due to Chud's dumb ass playcalling.
Not because he didn't have weapons.

Use his weapons and he will soar again.

#204 Brokenbad

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 07:07 PM

I feel sorry for Cam, his rookie year will be the best offense he has in Carolina. I am happy we upgraded the D line tho.


Cam has WAY more potential and talent than Eli, IMO.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 07:11 PM

He was the forgotten Man due to Chud's dumb ass playcalling.
Not because he didn't have weapons.

Use his weapons and he will soar again.

again you cannot blame it all on playcalling, to many plays left on the field by the skills position.i love to first 3 picks, but the last 2 ia just awful.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 07:27 PM

Gettlemen doesn't believe the game is played the way Cam needs to play it.

Gettlemen is a dinosaur.

What have we done for Cam? Are we going to give him another DII G to hinder the line all season again? We haven't added any weapons...

He inherited Cam and Rivera. They get a year. He isn't going to do anything big picture for them. He is going to add only big picture pieces that work if he goes a new direction soon.



Dude what the hell your talking about i bet Gettelman would get fired before we let go of Cam.......Cam wasn't Hurney's choice but Mr.Richardson you must be a fool if you don't think he had the final input when we drafted him......another note Rivera is going to be in Carolina for a long time ...we drafted players that fits this team and will help build this team identity which is Smash mouth football on both side ....

#207 CarolinaCoolin

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 08:51 PM

Tell me how the 2013 offense surrounding Newton is better than 2012.

Remember, guys like Gross, Smith, Williams, etc aren't constants. They actually are getting slowly worse each year. They will be slightly downgraded versions of what they where if we are lucky.


Dude seriously shut the fug up. You are spitting out nonsense. If star wasn't there we would have gone with Eifert at 14 to add a weapon. We got the best dt in the draft and with our first two round picks we improved the defense as a whole. You don't run before you can walk. His whole point is big guys let you compete. We now have big guys to win games and now we out in a position next year to go offense and improve our team even more. Bottom line if you don't like the way this team is being run stop following them and stop coming on the forum to post ignorant misinformed speculation. He's laying a foundation on which to build. Not thinking about the interior and what bed sheets he's going to have on bed.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 08:56 PM

But I won't be responding with you after this post.....when people can't use big boy words and resort to garbage I bail.



Cause you're a pussy...

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 08:58 PM

when coaches get fired and things get blown up, usually most that happens is on offense. NOT on defense. soooo

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 09:28 PM

Don't feel sorry for Shula. This offense is loaded with talent. We do need some pieces to ensure the future, but for the present we have a ton of offensive talent.

It's not just how much talent we have on offense, the level of talent of our opponent also matters. But I do believe we'll win at least 9 games. Whether that gets us in the playoffs is a different story.


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