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#31 SZ James

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 08:18 AM

Russell Wilson mentions God more than any other player I know (look at his twitter ffs) and to my knowledge doesn't get criticised for it. He actually says that God helps him win football games too, unlike teblow

Maybe it's because teblow belongs to the most persecuted group in america, the SWCM

#32 PhillyB

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 10:43 AM

Bomani Jones @bomani_jones

LOLOL RT @TimBrando: Being a Christian White male over 50 that's raised a family means nothing in today's culture. The sad truth. Period.
7:17 PM - 29 Apr 2013


hhhhhhaaaaaaaahahahaha


someone find them an advocate before its too late!

#33 pstall

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 09:55 PM

The Golden Calf of Bristol Tim controls the media. i had no idea.

 

im glad you guys are finally in tune with how bad the white devil is. finally people are paying attention.



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Posted 03 May 2013 - 12:57 AM

Sometimes I think a world where we have to survive by fighting in a giant Thunderdome does not seem so bad.

If you live in the south and in a conversation with group of neighbors or parents at a soccer game and someone says that they are not attending a church and more of a "spritual" person...or i do not follow any religion...Or better yet..i am an atheist! Agnostic! Whatever!

Tell me who will be the most persecuted person in that circle. Hint: it will not be the Christians!!

I feel sorry for the middle-eastern-black- gay atheist..the most persecuted person on earth...or in the South at least.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 07:57 AM

Sometimes I think a world where we have to survive by fighting in a giant Thunderdome does not seem so bad.

If you live in the south and in a conversation with group of neighbors or parents at a soccer game and someone says that they are not attending a church and more of a "spritual" person...or i do not follow any religion...Or better yet..i am an atheist! Agnostic! Whatever!

Tell me who will be the most persecuted person in that circle. Hint: it will not be the Christians!!

I feel sorry for the middle-eastern-black- gay atheist..the most persecuted person on earth...or in the South at least.

 

No kidding. Been there. So often I'm asked, "where do you go to church". I use to say, "oh we don't go to church" or "we're between churches" and the conversation got somewhat uncomfortable. Now I say, "I'm agnostic" and they stumble over their words and typically they never approach me again.

 

I've noticed similar treatment to anyone who is not Orthodox Christian as well. Especially when I was in church. We were often pre-warned of their antics (questions) and beliefs before Bible studies etc.  They'd eventually get kicked out of the church or shunned away.  This is experiences from churchs like Elevation not some uptight Presbyterian enviroment.



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Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:17 AM

Let's quantify the persecution instead of conjecture.
How often does it happen in the media be tv or print? When it happens what % of christians retaliate thru boycotts or violence? What is the number of christians that move to other countries and envoke violence in the name of God?

Just for a sample size what % of christians feel comfortable enough to even mention God or church at soccer matches or work?

What % of companies have policies in place where if you forward an email with anything religious you can be fired? Not an email inviting someone to church but maybe a quote or an article?

Finally. What % of threads in the tinderbox are started with sole intent to bash or bully someone who is religious as opposed to someone religious starting threads bashing or bullying non believers? Is it 50/50 or leans heavily one way or the other?

Just curious how this all can be quantified.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:34 AM

My parents had to pay the church money(thousands) to get their previous marriages annulled so they could receive the eucharist.  Oh, religion.



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Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:41 AM

Let's quantify the persecution instead of conjecture.
How often does it happen in the media be tv or print? When it happens what % of christians retaliate thru boycotts or violence? What is the number of christians that move to other countries and envoke violence in the name of God?

Just for a sample size what % of christians feel comfortable enough to even mention God or church at soccer matches or work?

What % of companies have policies in place where if you forward an email with anything religious you can be fired? Not an email inviting someone to church but maybe a quote or an article?

Finally. What % of threads in the tinderbox are started with sole intent to bash or bully someone who is religious as opposed to someone religious starting threads bashing or bullying non believers? Is it 50/50 or leans heavily one way or the other?

Just curious how this all can be quantified.

 

You go quantify that, I'll continue to avoid calling myself an atheist around strangers



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Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:54 AM

Finally. What % of threads in the tinderbox are started with sole intent to bash or bully someone who is religious as opposed to someone religious starting threads bashing or bullying non believers? Is it 50/50 or leans heavily one way or the other?

Just curious how this all can be quantified.

 

anti-religion threads in the huddle are generally a result of religion bashing/bullying non-believers irl



#40 SZ James

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:04 AM

wow pstall really thinks xians are persecuted more

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:24 AM

Yeah he's in the bubble.

 

I was just at my sons school. You know what was being talked about by all the moms? Church

 

Do you know how many pamphlets about church and prayer have been sent home with my son from school? At least 8. Do you know how many atheist or agnostic ones have? 0

 

My facebook feed at the moment is full of bible verses, christian quotes and request for prayers. There are many likes likes for those comments. Do you know how many comments were negative against any of them? None

 

If I were to post anything about my agnosticism, I'd lose friends, been there.

 

What does every Panther home game start with? Prayer. What does every political speech end with? God Bless America

 

 

 

 



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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:36 AM

Depends on where you're talking.  In the US?  Probably not so much.



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Posted 03 May 2013 - 01:29 PM

I actually don't think christians are overtly persc al tha much honestly. Covertly or secretively sure.

I ask to quantify to show some of those chirping about the persc to make the point that its the non believer who thinks christians are wringing their hands when its the other way around.
I mean you can't even get a good table if you wear a cross or you are walked out when you pray.

The corporate world has made things that don't bother anyone from either side of believing much bigger than what it is.

The litmus test is this and I doubt anyone here would be honest enough to admit this. How do you view someone once they say they are either a christian or athiest etc? Do you look down on them or shake it off?

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 01:37 PM

I actually don't think christians are overtly persc al tha much honestly. Covertly or secretively sure.

I ask to quantify to show some of those chirping about the persc to make the point that its the non believer who thinks christians are wringing their hands when its the other way around.
I mean you can't even get a good table if you wear a cross or you are walked out when you pray.

The corporate world has made things that don't bother anyone from either side of believing much bigger than what it is.

The litmus test is this and I doubt anyone here would be honest enough to admit this. How do you view someone once they say they are either a christian or athiest etc? Do you look down on them or shake it off?

 

Well I didnt understand any of that until the last paragraph.

 

If someone tells me they are a christian when it comes up naturally in a conversation I dont think anything of it because it is completely normal. 

 

If they just bring it up out of the blue, they usually start going on and on about their church so I get bored and tune out the conversation.  I will add that the same thing happened with the one person who brought up that he was an atheist (he went on and on about it and I ignored him)



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Posted 03 May 2013 - 01:40 PM

Yeah he's in the bubble.

 

I was just at my sons school. You know what was being talked about by all the moms? Church

 

Do you know how many pamphlets about church and prayer have been sent home with my son from school? At least 8. Do you know how many atheist or agnostic ones have? 0

 

My facebook feed at the moment is full of bible verses, christian quotes and request for prayers. There are many likes likes for those comments. Do you know how many comments were negative against any of them? None

 

If I were to post anything about my agnosticism, I'd lose friends, been there.

 

What does every Panther home game start with? Prayer. What does every political speech end with? God Bless America

 

The school thing is weird.  Both of my kids have gone all the way thru CMS from K-12 (my son graduates in June) and I've never gotten anything religious sent home. I mean seriously, nothing.   I wonder how many Jewish or Islamic pamphlets have gone out. 




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