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It would force Cam to depend on his other targets more for sure.

It would be a loss, but at this juncture I don't know how much of a loss. In ways, it could be a good thing,

In order for that to be true, you have to know for sure that Cam targets Smith too much as a matter of some dependency, and not because Smith just makes plays. I don't buy it. Nothing about losing the team's best receiving option is good.

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or maybe Rivera/Cam have a one yr audition for the old school new GM....therefore he doesn't want to gamble his picks on an offense that might not exist the next year. Instead using his resources for talent that fits what he believes in.

So how pissed will you be when Rivera is here next year because we had a winning year. If we had a better middle of the defense and didn't have all the injuries we would have had it last year as well.

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In order for that to be true, you have to know for sure that Cam targets Smith too much as a matter of some dependency, and not because Smith just makes plays. I don't buy it. Nothing about losing the team's best receiving option is good.

I agree. It's wishful thinking born of homerism to think that losing Smitty would have some kind of silver lining.

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If any team were to lose their best player, they would be in trouble. The Panthers are no different.

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Detroit will be screwed without Megatron. New Orleans will be screwed without Brees. Atlanta will be hurting without Julio Jones. And on and on. There are players on every team that are critical to their success and Smitty is one of those guys. Doesn't mean you have to find his replacement every year or even could if you tried. We have brought in a ton of players trying to find a number 2 since we found Smitty and few have worked out besides Moose. We will continue to try and find a number 1 to replace Smitty but honestly there were no receivers in this draft who could do that. Maybe I missed it but where was Julio Jones and A J Green in this draft. I didn't see any.

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If any team were to lose their best player, they would be in trouble. The Panthers are no different.

Detroit will be screwed without Megatron. New Orleans will be screwed without Brees. Atlanta will be hurting without Julio Jones. And on and on. There are players on every team that are critical to their success and Smitty is one of those guys. Doesn't mean you have to find his replacement every year or even could if you tried. We have brought in a ton of players trying to find a number 2 since we found Smitty and few have worked out besides Moose. We will continue to try and find a number 1 to replace Smitty but honestly there were no receivers in this draft who could do that. Maybe I missed it but where was Julio Jones and A J Green in this draft. I didn't see any.

That's easy enough to say, but it's not that simple. Some teams have proven depth, and it's expected for a team to essentially go to hell without their star QB. But, like I said, maybe the depth is there for us at WR. I really want to believe that.

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I didn't say the team would be better if Smith was lost, but developmentally I think it could help Cam.

He's forced quite a few passes to Smith when there were other options.

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The WR core is better than it was last year, we have that going for us. Each of the guys in the WR core have a skill that can compliment one another in this offense so it would make the loss of Smith maybe a little more bearable. You've got LaFell as your reliable 3rd down target, Hixon to work the middle and move the chains. Ginn that could hopefully be a serviceable deep threat. And the big question mark in the David Gettis who has/had the potential to do it all. Bryant isn't worth mentioning at this point.

Combined with Olsen. The RB's, and the occasional screens to Tolbert and now Kenjon Barner we should still be able to compete. Smith is still a huge help to this offense and it suck balls to lose him.

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The WR core is better than it was last year, we have that going for us. Each of the guys in the WR core have a skill that can compliment one another in this offense so it would make the loss of Smith maybe a little more bearable. You've got LaFell as your reliable 3rd down target, Hixon to work the middle and move the chains. Ginn that could hopefully be a serviceable deep threat. And the big question mark in the David Gettis who has/had the potential to do it all. Bryant isn't worth mentioning at this point.

Combined with Olsen. The RB's, and the occasional screens to Tolbert and now Kenjon Barner we should still be able to compete. Smith is still a huge help to this offense and it suck balls to lose him.

bottom of the depth chart you can argue is better. The guys who watch. Starters? I wouldn't agree w/ that.

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Detroit will be screwed without Megatron. New Orleans will be screwed without Brees. Atlanta will be hurting without Julio Jones. And on and on. There are players on every team that are critical to their success and Smitty is one of those guys. Doesn't mean you have to find his replacement every year or even could if you tried. We have brought in a ton of players trying to find a number 2 since we found Smitty and few have worked out besides Moose. We will continue to try and find a number 1 to replace Smitty but honestly there were no receivers in this draft who could do that. Maybe I missed it but where was Julio Jones and A J Green in this draft. I didn't see any.

Good teams add steady talent....

You add steady talent you can end up with Mike Wallace's, Steve Smith's, DeSean Jackson's, Greg Jennings'. I'm sure you didn't see any of them either.

and sometimes....AJ Green....is actually Braylon Edwards. Draft is always a gamble. With a young franchise QB....you are suppose to play the game and gamble for some talent.

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Brandon LaFell is better than you're giving him credit for.

2012

Smitty caught 73 balls on 138 targets - 53% catch rate

LaFell caught 44 balls on 76 targets - 58% catch rate

Smitty averaged 16.1 yards per catch

LaFell averaged 15.4 yards per catch

Smitty had 17 catches over 20 yards - 23% of catches

LaFell had 13 catches over 20 yards - 29% of catches

Smitty had 4 TD on 73 catches - 5.49% TD rate

LaFell had 4 TD on 44 catches - 9% TD rate

Smitty had 268 YAC - 3.67 average YAC

LaFell had 312 YAC - 7.09 average YAC

Smitty converted 51 1st downs on 73 catches - 69% 1st down rate

LaFell convered 31 1st downs on 44 catches - 70% 1st down rate

LaFell catches more balls thrown his way, catches them deeper, converts to TD's more often, gains more YAC, and has virtually identical yard per catch and 1st down stats. If you ask me we just need to throw the ball to LaFell more often.

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so do we sit and wait for someone to show up in the draft like aj green or megatron and hope that we are in a position to draft him? btw...not going to happen really anywhere after the top 10, but whatever.

or do we actively try and anticipate his leaving and do our best to try and have someone that can be relied on?

i don't regret picking up the guys we did and i understand that gettleman upgraded the bottom of the WR corps by adding hixon and ginn, but we really need to be looking for someone that can step up when smitty is gone...and no one we get after the top 10 picks are going to be locks to do that. it may take time. it may take some trial and error. but sitting and waiting and hoping that we don't lose smitty anytime soon and that when that happens where ever we draft we happen to have a julio jones type just happen to fall into our laps is a bad strategy.

yes....you can lose any key player at any point in the game, so it's crazy to think you can be prepared for any of them and not get set back, but when you have a player that is likely to retire soon or likely to be hurt because of a history of it combined with playing harder than anyone combined with getting hit harder than anyone combined with his age...you prepare yourselves for it.

sorry some of you don't like that idea, but we don't help things by ignoring things like this.

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