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#25 rayzor

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:36 PM

Good teams add steady talent....

You add steady talent you can end up with Mike Wallace's, Steve Smith's, DeSean Jackson's, Greg Jennings'. I'm sure you didn't see any of them either.

and sometimes....AJ Green....is actually Braylon Edwards. Draft is always a gamble. With a young franchise QB....you are suppose to play the game and gamble for some talent.

if this team continues to finish the way we did last year or even breaking even, we just aren't going to find those guys that are sure things to replace smitty, nor do you really expect to. what you do is you give your QB the best targets possible and you keep working at it to make sure he has those good options, never settling for ok. you find the best WR possible that is within reach and hope he fills that need when it rises. you don't sit back and hope a star falls into your lap...at least not again.

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:39 PM

I think they looked at DT prospects and WR prospects and liked what they saw at DT much better.

Without a doubt, we will take a WR early in next years draft. Hopefully one of the two big names fall to us, even if we have to trade up.



I'm sure someone will be available by the time the 32nd pick comes around :)

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:43 PM

I agree. It's wishful thinking born of homerism to think that losing Smitty would have some kind of silver lining.

i thnik it's also wishful thinking to think that we'd be ok or that there's really nothing that we could have done to make it not hurt quite so bad if/when he does get injured.

we had options. we didn't take them.

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:45 PM

I think they looked at DT prospects and WR prospects and liked what they saw at DT much better.

Without a doubt, we will take a WR early in next years draft. Hopefully one of the two big names fall to us, even if we have to trade up.

imo, waiting for something like that to happen is a mistake because the likeliness of that actually happening is minimal.

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:50 PM

Brandon LaFell is better than you're giving him credit for.

2012
Smitty caught 73 balls on 138 targets - 53% catch rate
LaFell caught 44 balls on 76 targets - 58% catch rate

Smitty averaged 16.1 yards per catch
LaFell averaged 15.4 yards per catch

Smitty had 17 catches over 20 yards - 23% of catches
LaFell had 13 catches over 20 yards - 29% of catches

Smitty had 4 TD on 73 catches - 5.49% TD rate
LaFell had 4 TD on 44 catches - 9% TD rate

Smitty had 268 YAC - 3.67 average YAC
LaFell had 312 YAC - 7.09 average YAC

Smitty converted 51 1st downs on 73 catches - 69% 1st down rate
LaFell convered 31 1st downs on 44 catches - 70% 1st down rate

LaFell catches more balls thrown his way, catches them deeper, converts to TD's more often, gains more YAC, and has virtually identical yard per catch and 1st down stats. If you ask me we just need to throw the ball to LaFell more often.



Steve Smith is drawing the top corner and double team for Lafell. This is one of the times that simple stats do not tell the whole story, you have to watch what''s happening on the field. Steve is able to make plays inspite of the attention he gets from the D, Lafell hasn't shown much to suggest he could do that. That said I just want us to be better in the redzone. Whether that's from running or throwing I don't care. We're good at moving the chains but we gotta score td's and finish drives.

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 02:07 PM

Steve Smith is drawing the top corner and double team for Lafell. This is one of the times that simple stats do not tell the whole story, you have to watch what''s happening on the field. Steve is able to make plays inspite of the attention he gets from the D, Lafell hasn't shown much to suggest he could do that. That said I just want us to be better in the redzone. Whether that's from running or throwing I don't care. We're good at moving the chains but we gotta score td's and finish drives.


I'll start with the positive, yes Steve does and should draw the opposing teams top cover guy. No question Smitty is top dog and one of the finest receivers in the league over the last decade.

With that said, LaFell's job is to beat the defense he's facing and he has done that quite well. To say he doesn't make plays suggests to me that you may be blind. Youtube some Panther highlight videos and you will see LaFell all over the place making circus catches, breaking tackles, and doing much of the same impossible Smitty serves up. You can't say the kid can't play when all he's done is put stats that are superior in Smitty's in many ways against weaker coverage. I would expect his stats to drop when facing the top corner as Smitty does, how much, who knows? The fact is they could drop quite a bit and he would still be in Smitty's neigborhood stat wise. Another fact is LaFell does make plays when given the opportunity, go watch some game film or highlight reels to remind yourself of this please.

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 02:33 PM

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 02:36 PM

I'll start with the positive, yes Steve does and should draw the opposing teams top cover guy. No question Smitty is top dog and one of the finest receivers in the league over the last decade.

With that said, LaFell's job is to beat the defense he's facing and he has done that quite well. To say he doesn't make plays suggests to me that you may be blind. Youtube some Panther highlight videos and you will see LaFell all over the place making circus catches, breaking tackles, and doing much of the same impossible Smitty serves up. You can't say the kid can't play when all he's done is put stats that are superior in Smitty's in many ways against weaker coverage. I would expect his stats to drop when facing the top corner as Smitty does, how much, who knows? The fact is they could drop quite a bit and he would still be in Smitty's neigborhood stat wise. Another fact is LaFell does make plays when given the opportunity, go watch some game film or highlight reels to remind yourself of this please.


My thing is is that LaFell disappears at stretches at a time not only during the game, but during the season. He really doesn't strike fear in anyone. Indeed, he only has one 100 yard game in three seasons. Now compare (which I have done) this to other legitimate WR2s, and you'll see that LaFell is decidedly average. Believe me, I have heard all the arguments and rationalizations before. When you compare LaFell to the WR1s or WR2s of the top teams, he always ends up on the weaker side of the equation in most categories. It is my contention that he is a WR3 who plays up to a WR2's potential, but he has never had a go-to WR type game. And, one 91 yard catch on Christmas Eve against a suspect defense doesn't cut the mustard. Neither do circus catches which I'd gladly give up for the consistency that other young WRs have displayed at least one time in their career.

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 02:39 PM

I still don't think we're done with free agency

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 02:41 PM

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him getting arrested and suspended tells me he won't be a choice.

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 02:42 PM

I still don't think we're done with free agency

agreed. the second wave of cuts is just around the corner. it happens every year after the draft.

going to be some more WRs, DBs, and OL let go.

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 03:33 PM

smith has gone down before....and guess what we were fugged. all the changes in the coaching staff and front office and they are making the same dumb ass mistakes.