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#31 carolina-chuck

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 05:21 PM

Florence will not start.... I will actually be surprised if he makes the final roster.


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Posted 01 May 2013 - 05:22 PM

maybe he isn't pressing bc the 6th rounder is worried he lacks the ability to defend?

people got overinfatuated with him....thinking trash talk meant skill


Lol that and they thought he was god after his 4 interceptions in practice

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 05:25 PM

I would much rather have a monstrous front seven and a weak secondary than the other way around....


example Dashon Goldson he is incredibly overated and people will see that this season now that he isn't playing behind the niners front 7.

I agree. As good as Bucs secondary is, I don't think it'll take them anyway far this season. Bucs loss pretty much their best pass rusher in Bennett and they did nothing to address this other than taking Gholston late in the draft. And Bennett isnt wasnt anything spectacular. Clayborn and Bowers never became the players they were suppose to become. Though, there is still time for them. Don't even mention their linebackers. It's TERRIBLE!

History has shown that SB teams can win with mediocracy in the secondary. Just check the previous 5-7 years.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 05:28 PM

I agree. As good as Bucs secondary is, I don't think it'll take them anyway far this season. Bucs loss pretty much their best pass rusher in Bennett and they did nothing to address this other than taming Gholston late in the draft. Clayborn and Bowers never became the players they were suppose to become. This there is time for them. Don't even mention their linebackers. It's TERRIBLE!

History has shown that SB teams can win with mediocracy in the secondary. Just check the previous 5-7 years.

Tampa has some decent players in there front seven, David and McCoy are pretty good other than that they have no pass rush....

 

 

We are the only team in the NFCS that has a pass rush that can actually be feared.....



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Posted 01 May 2013 - 05:29 PM

Corner is such a ridiculously hard position to learn. Its like a miracle when you find a decent one with a year under his belt. Theyre already fighting a losing battle since the league wants touchdowns. Rules committees are making sure of that. Receivers are trained to use the slightest fault in theyre technique against them. Things like being soft with your hands will get you owned over and over again even if you have the speed to be in every play.

 

We're in a pretty good spot though. Massive front seven, lost a badass corner and got a decent replacement to protect the 1, safety has competition at least, and the 2 will be up for grabs from Thomas or Norman.

 

 

32 is not old for a corner btw, its up there but its not out of their prime. Champs is doing just fine at 34 or 35 right now and Darrell Green was tackling running backs and covering Megatron sized receivers until he was 42.

Florence is no were close to the level of any of those guys in fact he is injury prone....



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Posted 01 May 2013 - 05:30 PM

Lol that and they thought he was god after his 4 interceptions in practice


Don't trash the kid this early. You might have to bite young tongue next time. Face it. The kid was a rookie last season. He played like a rookie but at times he played better than most rookies. Fans today wants "immediate" impact from their rookies and if they don't make the pro bowl, they're gonna cry about how bad he is. There is still time for Norman to succeed. He can be very good. Just give the kid time to develop and be comfortable. Please!

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 05:30 PM

no team generated better pressure than us last year.....yet that is 95% of the talk about how to fix our secondary issue.

they could step up into the pocket last year.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 05:34 PM

Tampa has some decent players in there front seven, David and McCoy are pretty good other than that they have no pass rush....


We are the only team in the NFCS that has a pass rush that can actually be feared.....


I think we've done more during this offseason to give us a chance at winning the South this year than the other three teams.

It'll be between us and Atl just bc they have a franchise QB and two very good receivers on offense. TB wont win with Freeman and NO is just terrible on Defense. They don't have the personnel to switch to a 34. Dno why they are.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 05:35 PM

I'm comfortable with the Joshes... it's the Safeties that I'm more concerned with.



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Posted 01 May 2013 - 05:43 PM

Florence is no were close to the level of any of those guys in fact he is injury prone....

 

He's missed 8 games last year and about 3 in the 8 years before that. Now he's injury prone. I hear ya man, I disagree. You also said he's lost step, right? In what way? I havnt followed his career so im interested in hearing this.



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Posted 01 May 2013 - 05:49 PM

He's missed 8 games last year and about 3 in the 8 years before that. Now he's injury prone. I hear ya man, I disagree. You also said he's lost step, right? In what way? I havnt followed his career so im interested in hearing this.

 

He was a 4.4 guy earlier in his career I caught some of the lions games and he got torched last season, I also saw a couple san diego games when he played for them, he was mediocre at his best.



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Posted 01 May 2013 - 05:53 PM

I'm comfortable with the Joshes... it's the Safeties that I'm more concerned with.


Yup. I'm more worry about who's going to play beside Godfrey. I'm not sure in Campbell and Mitchell may really just be a camp body. I haven't heard or seen anything from him until we signed him. I hope we got a steal in Robert Lester. I love that mam and hope and can take advantage of it.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 05:59 PM

He was a 4.4 guy earlier in his career I caught some of the lions games and he got torched last season, I also saw a couple san diego games when he played for them, he was mediocre at his best.

 

Yeeeah 4.4, Idk what were his splits I wonder. I dont think you can look at that 4.4 and say he can run in all phases just by that time itself. Have you watched him play since he was a rookie? Like, have you watched HIS game, not just the games he's playing since he came into the league. . or close to anyways?

 

What part of his technique looks bad?

 

 

edit: I mean lots of guys get torched. Smitty torches Revis so idk what to think of your statement.



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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:01 PM

Yeeeah 4.4, Idk what were his splits I wonder. I dont think you can look at that 4.4 and say he can run in all phases just by that time itself. Have you watched him play since he was a rookie? Like, have you watched HIS game, not just the games he's playing since he came into the league. . or close to anyways?

 

What part of his technique looks bad?

 

 

edit: I mean lots of guys get torched. Smitty torches Revis so idk what to think of your statement.

 

From what I've seen on him he is a risk taker and it shows.... he is a physical tackler from the CB spot however...



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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:10 PM

From what I've seen on him he is a risk taker and it shows.... he is a physical tackler from the CB spot however...

 

I gotta say I would require that from my starters if I was a coach. Bigger backs like Stew will stiff arm you and laugh while they run over you if you cant tackle well. An NFL corner better be able to tackle period.

 

If he can cover . . for the most part, and he can tackle . . and he can stay healthy. He'll be fine with that front 7




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