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Poll: 29% Think Armed Rebellion Might Soon Be Necessary


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#61 GOOGLE RON PAUL

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:23 PM

Well you may be right. But admittedly I don't know of too many armed rebellions in the US - the whiskey rebellion and Blair mountain are the only 2 that really jump out at me. Maybe the Branch Davidians?

In none of those cases were whites paraded about as serious people with serious opinions. Other than Native Americans, has a minority led armed rebellion ever occurred (dismissing things like the Rodney King riots)

 

revolutionaries literally get assassinated before any sort of armed rebellion can occur

 

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Fred_Hampton

 

also mlk wasn't shot until he started talking about the connection between systemic racism and the wage system



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Posted 04 May 2013 - 12:04 AM

Fred Hampton is one I have not heard before. The wiki page is heavily biased so I'll look into it a little more elsewhere.

Im not sure I would count MLK in the armed rebellion category.

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 12:09 AM

point was that black revolutionaries tend to get shot before "armed rebellion"

 

mlk was certainly moving in a revolutionary direction, though it's difficult to speculate whether or not ppl would have taken up arms as he attempted to balance a growing radicalism with a non-violent message



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Posted 04 May 2013 - 12:23 AM

After reading several stories on Fred Hampton, maybe that wiki page isn't as biased as I thought.

I can agree with you on that - killed before it got to the point of armed rebellion.

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 02:01 AM

this is a big part of why i mocked the tea party relentlessly. regardless of whatever grass roots foundation it may have had, once rick santelli had his one shining moment, the tea party acted purely in the interests of the elite, and the response by the government and the media reflects that. the tea party was/is a counter-revolutionary movement in a country where no revolutionary movement exists. it is one of the weirdest things i've ever seen.

 

meanwhile the meandering, milquetoast occupy, fueled by a bunch of bored middle class people who primarily fell between moderate democratics and democratic socialists (ie mostly people who are willing to tolerate capitalism but want to tug on the reigns a little; people who have no interest in risking their own, relatively comfortable lives for meaningful change), faced a pretty significant amount of push-back and propaganda.

 

america didn't get to where it is today by tolerating resistance. if that were the case, the US might have eventually become a democratic-socialist state in the decades following the new deal



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Posted 04 May 2013 - 02:05 AM

also fred hampton was a cool dude

 

A lot of people don’t understand the Black Panthers Party’s relationship with white mother country radicals. A lot of people don’t even understand the words that Eldridge uses a lot. But what we’re saying is that there are white people in the mother country that are for the same types of things that we are for stimulating revolution in the mother country. And we say that we will work with anybody and form a coalition with anybody that has revolution on their mind. We’re not a racist organization, because we understand that racism is an excuse used for capitalism, and we know that racism is just — it’s a byproduct of capitalism. Everything would be alright if everything was put back in the hands of the people, and we’re going to have to put it back in the hands of the people.

 

Black people need some peace. White people need some peace. And we are going to have to fight. We’re going to have to struggle. We’re going to have to struggle relentlessly to bring about some peace, because the people that we’re asking for peace, they are a bunch of megalomaniac warmongers, and they don’t even understand what peace means. And we’ve got to fight them. We’ve got to struggle with them to make them understand what peace means.

 

 



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Posted 04 May 2013 - 07:30 AM

If we only could go back to the America from 1780's we'd all be much better off. Trust us.

- Signed white male landowners

Agreed.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:56 PM

What armed militia or united citizens with AR -15s could stand up to the ATF-FBI let alone the military?

Waco was well armed but...

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:58 PM

the military isn't equipped to fight asymmetric war. it's why they tend to just kill the poo out of civilians in the process.




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