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#1 Gucci Mane

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 03:13 PM

FWIW:

 

First play: 2nd and 4 [1st Q]

Bears playing double tights, Marshall out right.

 

Seems to me we are playing 1 deep zone [naka is about 75 yards back], since godfrey[i think] is coming in off a poorly disguised blitz off the "weak" side. Mike/Sam/Will do a good job of getting back and sitting into their hook zones. I dont like that Norman is off the ball that much on the other side, but usually the slant wont be to the back side if you are in double tights and the Will is obviously going to sit, as well as the possibility of Godfrey to sell out, with Naka rolling coverage towards Marshall.

 

The problem, which cutler and everyone else on the planet knows, is you have captain Munnerlyn [5'8'' with cleats on] one-on-one against the billboard that is Brandon Marshall. Capt immediately looks for cutlers eyes, gives Brandon Marshall no bump even though he is lined up tight, and cutler creams his pants and makes this throw likely with his eyes closed. jimmy clausen couldve done this.

 

Second play @0:19: 1st and 10 [1st Q]

Double tights again under center. We have 1 deep again with Godfrey coming off the edge again

 

Our CB's are playing 6 yards off [first down, w/e] with Nakamura of course playing back in section 543. Keuchly didnt' get back quick enough, and with Norman giving Marshall inside leverage coupled with Naka way back, the post is another easy pick up.

 

Overall, this play was just the wrong call at the wrong time.

 

Play @1:05 1st and 10 [4th Q]

Bears run strong I formation, we stack the strong side of the field.

 

Marshall is out there all alone with the rookie Norman giving proper cushion, but of course naka starts out way out of frame[common occurance].

 

Our linebackers freeze on the play action and Naka apparently thinks its a hail mary play because there is no excuse for the separation between him and Norman when Marshall catches the ball, even if it was a comeback route.

 

Play @1:39 3rd and 8 [4th Q]

Bears run a 5 receiver set, naturally we have 2 deep.

 

Specifically we are running a tampa 2 right here as you can see Keek digs deeper in his zone. This allowed the bears to clear out the outsides and allow Marshall to be matched up against TD with a "hole" route. Basically he decides to go outside or inside based on where the hole is. Easy throw and catch.

 

Basically this is the defense we should have been running in the other plays, and vice versa.

 

Then the painful part:

 

basically from 2:11-on we run a basic cover 2 bend but dont break. The problem with this is that cover 2 usually tries to get the CB's to physically engage and re route the WR with the confidence that the safety will not let anyone get behind him. The problem with that is they only needed a field goal, but our safetys sat. Anyone whos ever played the WR will tell you about the gap that the cover 2 creates, this is easily exploitable mostly on fly routes. Since we were 7 yards off, its more of the throw and catch you saw earlier...

 

I know ive been over this before, just wanted to get more in depth. Yes we had rookie players and an idiot[naka] back there. but the playcalling is suspect to say the least, and the evolution[learning] throughout the game was even more suspect. I dont see how you can even expect that not to happen if you dont roll tight coverage to the billboards side and make the #2 take the heat.

 

 

 

Ive been drinking heavily since its exam week and for some reason wanted to go back and look at the utter failure that was our Defense vs Brandon Marshall. Notice that these are quick catch and throw plays except for one, so DLine inability isnt really a factor.

 

 

 

 

 



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 04:50 PM

In honesty, good review. this game was a killer.



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 07:24 PM

haha i knew it was going to be too long for the huddlers that only know football from what the announcers tell them... but it was worth a go, at least i got to evaluate the huddle and its knowledge further. Not claiming i know everything but i try to be a student of the game and i played growing up all the way til i graduated hs so i try to extrapolate some things. Oh well. maybe some others will get on later and take the time to read it to offer other insight.



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 07:26 PM

This game was such BS. We are better than the Bears.



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 07:40 PM

Seriously dude, if youre in college and have final exams why the hell are you dabbling in this sort of exercise in futility?  let alone drinking

 

thought all the kids and kiddettes were doing adderall these days.



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 07:47 PM

Seriously dude, if youre in college and have final exams why the hell are you dabbling in this sort of exercise in futility?  let alone drinking

 

thought all the kids and kiddettes were doing adderall these days.

 

his username is gucci mane



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 07:48 PM

Seriously dude, if youre in college and have final exams why the hell are you dabbling in this sort of exercise in futility?  let alone drinking

 

thought all the kids and kiddettes were doing adderall these days.

 

because finance and economics are boring and football is fun and exciting and drinking adds to the fun/excitement/frustration



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 07:49 PM

why dont yall read the goddamn material and talk about that rather than my short term life decisions



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 07:55 PM

drinking adds to the fun/excitement/frustration

 

 

sounds like one of my forays into the Myrtle Beach Strip Clubs



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 07:57 PM

perfect route running by Marshal. 

 

you got to jam him at the line, re route him, then roam the middle with a LB to light him up his he gets open on a drag / corner / post. 

 

 



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 07:57 PM

his username is gucci mane

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

are you his girlfriend?

 



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 08:18 PM

 

 

 

 

drinking adds to the fun/excitement/frustration

 

 

sounds like one of my forays into the Myrtle Beach Strip Clubs

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

they didn't teach you how to quote back in the 40s?



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 08:27 PM



FWIW:

 

First play: 2nd and 4 [1st Q]

Bears playing double tights, Marshall out right.

 

Seems to me we are playing 1 deep zone [naka is about 75 yards back], since godfrey[i think] is coming in off a poorly disguised blitz off the "weak" side. Mike/Sam/Will do a good job of getting back and sitting into their hook zones. I dont like that Norman is off the ball that much on the other side, but usually the slant wont be to the back side if you are in double tights and the Will is obviously going to sit, as well as the possibility of Godfrey to sell out, with Naka rolling coverage towards Marshall.

 

The problem, which cutler and everyone else on the planet knows, is you have captain Munnerlyn [5'8'' with cleats on] one-on-one against the billboard that is Brandon Marshall. Capt immediately looks for cutlers eyes, gives Brandon Marshall no bump even though he is lined up tight, and cutler creams his pants and makes this throw likely with his eyes closed. jimmy clausen couldve done this.

 

Second play @0:19: 1st and 10 [1st Q]

Double tights again under center. We have 1 deep again with Godfrey coming off the edge again

 

Our CB's are playing 6 yards off [first down, w/e] with Nakamura of course playing back in section 543. Keuchly didnt' get back quick enough, and with Norman giving Marshall inside leverage coupled with Naka way back, the post is another easy pick up.

 

Overall, this play was just the wrong call at the wrong time.

 

Play @1:05 1st and 10 [4th Q]

Bears run strong I formation, we stack the strong side of the field.

 

Marshall is out there all alone with the rookie Norman giving proper cushion, but of course naka starts out way out of frame[common occurance].

 

Our linebackers freeze on the play action and Naka apparently thinks its a hail mary play because there is no excuse for the separation between him and Norman when Marshall catches the ball, even if it was a comeback route.

 

Play @1:39 3rd and 8 [4th Q]

Bears run a 5 receiver set, naturally we have 2 deep.

 

Specifically we are running a tampa 2 right here as you can see Keek digs deeper in his zone. This allowed the bears to clear out the outsides and allow Marshall to be matched up against TD with a "hole" route. Basically he decides to go outside or inside based on where the hole is. Easy throw and catch.

 

Basically this is the defense we should have been running in the other plays, and vice versa.

 

Then the painful part:

 

basically from 2:11-on we run a basic cover 2 bend but dont break. The problem with this is that cover 2 usually tries to get the CB's to physically engage and re route the WR with the confidence that the safety will not let anyone get behind him. The problem with that is they only needed a field goal, but our safetys sat. Anyone whos ever played the WR will tell you about the gap that the cover 2 creates, this is easily exploitable mostly on fly routes. Since we were 7 yards off, its more of the throw and catch you saw earlier...

 

I know ive been over this before, just wanted to get more in depth. Yes we had rookie players and an idiot[naka] back there. but the playcalling is suspect to say the least, and the evolution[learning] throughout the game was even more suspect. I dont see how you can even expect that not to happen if you dont roll tight coverage to the billboards side and make the #2 take the heat.

 

 

 

Ive been drinking heavily since its exam week and for some reason wanted to go back and look at the utter failure that was our Defense vs Brandon Marshall. Notice that these are quick catch and throw plays except for one, so DLine inability isnt really a factor.

 

 

I like reading, so I read the whole thing. Seems to be good analysis. I didn't break this sequence of plays down in this much depth, but I did go back and study what happened on the condensed version of the game in Game Rewind, and I saw a lot of this stuff too.



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 08:27 PM



FWIW:

 

First play: 2nd and 4 [1st Q]

Bears playing double tights, Marshall out right.

 

Seems to me we are playing 1 deep zone [naka is about 75 yards back], since godfrey[i think] is coming in off a poorly disguised blitz off the "weak" side. Mike/Sam/Will do a good job of getting back and sitting into their hook zones. I dont like that Norman is off the ball that much on the other side, but usually the slant wont be to the back side if you are in double tights and the Will is obviously going to sit, as well as the possibility of Godfrey to sell out, with Naka rolling coverage towards Marshall.

 

The problem, which cutler and everyone else on the planet knows, is you have captain Munnerlyn [5'8'' with cleats on] one-on-one against the billboard that is Brandon Marshall. Capt immediately looks for cutlers eyes, gives Brandon Marshall no bump even though he is lined up tight, and cutler creams his pants and makes this throw likely with his eyes closed. jimmy clausen couldve done this.

 

Second play @0:19: 1st and 10 [1st Q]

Double tights again under center. We have 1 deep again with Godfrey coming off the edge again

 

Our CB's are playing 6 yards off [first down, w/e] with Nakamura of course playing back in section 543. Keuchly didnt' get back quick enough, and with Norman giving Marshall inside leverage coupled with Naka way back, the post is another easy pick up.

 

Overall, this play was just the wrong call at the wrong time.

 

Play @1:05 1st and 10 [4th Q]

Bears run strong I formation, we stack the strong side of the field.

 

Marshall is out there all alone with the rookie Norman giving proper cushion, but of course naka starts out way out of frame[common occurance].

 

Our linebackers freeze on the play action and Naka apparently thinks its a hail mary play because there is no excuse for the separation between him and Norman when Marshall catches the ball, even if it was a comeback route.

 

Play @1:39 3rd and 8 [4th Q]

Bears run a 5 receiver set, naturally we have 2 deep.

 

Specifically we are running a tampa 2 right here as you can see Keek digs deeper in his zone. This allowed the bears to clear out the outsides and allow Marshall to be matched up against TD with a "hole" route. Basically he decides to go outside or inside based on where the hole is. Easy throw and catch.

 

Basically this is the defense we should have been running in the other plays, and vice versa.

 

Then the painful part:

 

basically from 2:11-on we run a basic cover 2 bend but dont break. The problem with this is that cover 2 usually tries to get the CB's to physically engage and re route the WR with the confidence that the safety will not let anyone get behind him. The problem with that is they only needed a field goal, but our safetys sat. Anyone whos ever played the WR will tell you about the gap that the cover 2 creates, this is easily exploitable mostly on fly routes. Since we were 7 yards off, its more of the throw and catch you saw earlier...

 

I know ive been over this before, just wanted to get more in depth. Yes we had rookie players and an idiot[naka] back there. but the playcalling is suspect to say the least, and the evolution[learning] throughout the game was even more suspect. I dont see how you can even expect that not to happen if you dont roll tight coverage to the billboards side and make the #2 take the heat.

 

 

 

Ive been drinking heavily since its exam week and for some reason wanted to go back and look at the utter failure that was our Defense vs Brandon Marshall. Notice that these are quick catch and throw plays except for one, so DLine inability isnt really a factor.

 

 

I like reading, so I read the whole thing. Seems to be good analysis. I didn't break this sequence of plays down in this much depth, but I did go back and study what happened on the condensed version of the game in Game Rewind, and I saw a lot of this stuff too.



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 08:31 PM

 

 

 

 

they didn't teach you how to quote back in the 40s?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

so sorry Im not one of you hipster dufuses

 

 





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