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Five NFC teams that failed to fill needs (ATL & CAR included)


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5 total picks this draft. Do you think were ready to compete for the Super Bowl yet? Trading up in the second we would be giving up picks. There are no right or wrong answers here. That just wasn't a very in-depth answer.


Too be very honest with you I would have tried real hard to get back in the first to take Hopkins like I kept telling people(you can check the threads)I knew he wouldn't have been there in the 2nd. I think he will be the texans #1 when AJ is gone. If you can get two starters in the draft (Star, Hopkins) you can fill in depth with free agents and undrafteds.

We were lucky that Star fell to us really lucky. When you get lucky it gives you room to take a chance and trade back up. It's only reaching if it doesn't work.

Worst case scenario I would have traded into the 3rd to get Keenan but they spent a lot of time with him so maybe they know something I don't.

One thing I wouldn't do is just sit dead in my chair and just take who ever is left

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When you try to fill a need with your picks is when you take Jimmy Clausen's and Terrell McClain's.

that happens when you've got a bad evaluator making the picks. not all reaches result in failure. it's not a bad thing to pick someone ranked a little lower on your board to make the team more balanced, esp. when you have someone who is a great evaluator.

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Too be very honest with you I would have tried real hard to get back in the first to take Hopkins like I kept telling people(you can check the threads)I knew he wouldn't have been there in the 2nd. I think he will be the texans #1 when AJ is gone. If you can get two starters in the draft (Star, Hopkins) you can fill in depth with free agents and undrafteds.

We were lucky that Star fell to us really lucky. When you get lucky it gives you room to take a chance and trade back up. It's only reaching if it doesn't work.

Worst case scenario I would have traded into the 3rd to get Keenan but they spent a lot of time with him so maybe they know something I don't.

One thing I wouldn't do is just sit dead in my chair and just take who ever is left


We'd wondered what you'd been up to, Marty.

Tell us more about how you would have give up a second in what looks to be the best draft in 10-20 years to pick up a WR who will be out of the league in 4 seasons.

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I'm just wondering what the game plan is for when smitty goes down or retires.

 

i get this feeling that WR is going to be addressed the same lame way that DT was addressed for years and I've seen nothing to change that perception.

 

you know we look back at the superbowl run and think, hey what did we do differently? and our minds go to that dominant DL that I'm gald we have again, but there's also something else...we took a shot on a short little WR who was more of just a return specialist with anger issues and a napoleon complex and we didn't spend even a first round on him, but we still took a chance even though there was no guarantee that he could supplant either starter and there were there were higher rated prospects on the board. we took a gamble that this little kid could amount to something and it paid off, but that was just luck. we were lucky that the gamble we made worked out like it did.

 

tbh, it's just never really been a priority with this team. the best attempts we've made was a second rounder from USC with work ethic issues and a QB that we hoped would somehow turn into a star and a third rounder and what else? 

 

we got lucky with smith. it should have been a bigger priority in other years. but the problem here is that we can't even get lucky with a draft pick if we don't use one. 

 

until it's made into an actual priority we'll be limited in what this offense can do long term, and i don't care who we have as QB.

gameplan is to complain about Cam...

 

Similar to the way people complain about Rivera not being a brilliant D mind and defensive gameplan's costing us ....despite him having a joke DT/LB group and weak secondary in 2011, and having no DTs and a joke for secondary talent in 12

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We addressed our biggest need....DT was easily our BIGGEST need.

 

Now we have to find a #1 WR, but we did what we set out to do in the draft IMO.

 

Make no mistake about it, however, we are not set at WR...not even close.

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You have to look at it like this Lafell is in the last year of his contract.

Hixon is on a one year deal

Ginn is on a one year deal

Smitty is 34 and looks very happy outside of football and could hang it up at anytime.

It's very possible that your top 4 wrs could be gone next year. Then what the fuck are you going to do??

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that happens when you've got a bad evaluator making the picks. not all reaches result in failure. it's not a bad thing to pick someone ranked a little lower on your board to make the team more balanced, esp. when you have someone who is a great evaluator.


I mean, in the end, does our team really need another WR picked in the 4th-6th round? I don't really understand the issue.

Unless you're suggesting taking a WR over Star or Short in which case I can't help ya.

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that happens when you've got a bad evaluator making the picks. not all reaches result in failure. it's not a bad thing to pick someone ranked a little lower on your board to make the team more balanced, esp. when you have someone who is a great evaluator.

 

I get what you are saying. This is why the draft is a crapshoot. It's like saying would you rather take this linebacker who has a better chance at being great, than a WR that doesn't have the same chance. You don't know in the end how it will pan out but based on your evaluations the linebacker is the better pick. So in your mind you have a statistically better chance at making your team better overall by picking the linebacker. I think that is Gettleman's way of thinking about it.

 

It sucks that we are in this position with WR. I understand the position we are in. I was very vocal about taking a WR in the first two rounds, because I want to take the burden off of Cam. It's absolutely ridiculous how much we have put on his shoulders.  I just try and understand the man who is making these picks and the thought process that goes with that, because at the end of the day he knows a BAGILLION times more than we ever will (and he has the resume to back it up).

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I mean, in the end, does our team really need another WR picked in the 4th-6th round? I don't really understand the issue.

Unless you're suggesting taking a WR over Star or Short in which case I can't help ya.

 

 

A lot of this teams troubles still stem from "Hurney Magic" or lack thereof

 

 

We don't need any more 4-6 round WRs, we need to try and address it with higher picks, and that is something I think we'll do in next years draft.

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I think a lot of people would hate to have a situation like Smith was in....shitty QB's with a great WR.

 

Now we have a great QB and shitty WRs....can't let Cam go to waste.

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I mean, in the end, does our team really need another WR picked in the 4th-6th round? I don't really understand the issue.

Unless you're suggesting taking a WR over Star or Short in which case I can't help ya.

I'm talking about next year. 

 

what's the plan? do we make it a priority? or do we try to double up on the OL again and hope that the next year is ok for WR?

 

WR is important. we've got TRY to get someone to fill smitty's shoes rather than just hope some guy falls into our lap early or one of our udfas or former first round busts we pick up in  FA breaks out...all of which requires a whole lot more luck than reaching a little bit fir a WR in the first couple rounds.

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Too be very honest with you I would have tried real hard to get back in the first to take Hopkins like I kept telling people(you can check the threads)I knew he wouldn't have been there in the 2nd. I think he will be the texans #1 when AJ is gone. If you can get two starters in the draft (Star, Hopkins) you can fill in depth with free agents and undrafteds.

We were lucky that Star fell to us really lucky. When you get lucky it gives you room to take a chance and trade back up. It's only reaching if it doesn't work.

Worst case scenario I would have traded into the 3rd to get Keenan but they spent a lot of time with him so maybe they know something I don't.

One thing I wouldn't do is just sit dead in my chair and just take who ever is left

 

I personally don't like that because you are sacrificing your future for the present. We're not quite there yet to be making moves like that.  This is a process that will take time to make us a more complete team. Look at the 49ers who had 10+ draft picks. We want to get into a position to be like that.  It does suck that a quality WR didn't fall to us in the 2nd but you don't sacrifice your future for the present when we haven't even shown to be a playoff team year in and year out. And I don't think a WR would push us over that edge as much as the 2 DT's we picked. Cam has weapons on this team, not the quality we would all like, but he does have them. But obviously just my opinion.
 

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