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Five NFC teams that failed to fill needs (ATL & CAR included)

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Trade up and take Justin hunter

 

5 total picks this draft. Do you think were ready to compete for the Super Bowl yet? Trading up in the second we would be giving up picks. There are no right or wrong answers here. That just wasn't a very in-depth answer.

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I'm just wondering what the game plan is for when smitty goes down or retires.

 

i get this feeling that WR is going to be addressed the same lame way that DT was addressed for years and I've seen nothing to change that perception.

 

you know we look back at the superbowl run and think, hey what did we do differently? and our minds go to that dominant DL that I'm gald we have again, but there's also something else...we took a shot on a short little WR who was more of just a return specialist with anger issues and a napoleon complex and we didn't spend even a first round on him, but we still took a chance even though there was no guarantee that he could supplant either starter and there were there were higher rated prospects on the board. we took a gamble that this little kid could amount to something and it paid off, but that was just luck. we were lucky that the gamble we made worked out like it did.

 

tbh, it's just never really been a priority with this team. the best attempts we've made was a second rounder from USC with work ethic issues and a QB that we hoped would somehow turn into a star and a third rounder and what else? 

 

we got lucky with smith. it should have been a bigger priority in other years. but the problem here is that we can't even get lucky with a draft pick if we don't use one. 

 

until it's made into an actual priority we'll be limited in what this offense can do long term, and i don't care who we have as QB.

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Seeing as I'm a psl owner I have every right to bitch. Most posters here don't even go to the damn games

Not by choice on my end. I've been a fan for 20 years and have never made it to a game. I just started going to training camp a few years ago so that is what I look forward to every year.

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When you try to fill a need with your picks is when you take Jimmy Clausen's and Terrell McClain's.

I remember these exact same conversations, except in the past it was QB's.

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This years draft class lacked talent at wide receiver. Gettle worked most of them out and must have not liked what he saw, but the fact he worked out ten or more says he plans to address that position. Next years receiver class is great and we could have a potentially elite receiver in the first or second round.

we don't know it's going to be great. there are no guarantees. there are no guarantees that an elite one/sure thing will fall into our lap. there is no guarantee that at the time we draft there won't be some big fat guy we just happen to like a little more. 

 

sometimes you have to reach a little to make the team as a whole better. do we have the guts to do that?

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5 total picks this draft. Do you think were ready to compete for the Super Bowl yet? Trading up in the second we would be giving up picks. There are no right or wrong answers here. That just wasn't a very in-depth answer.

Too be very honest with you I would have tried real hard to get back in the first to take Hopkins like I kept telling people(you can check the threads)I knew he wouldn't have been there in the 2nd. I think he will be the texans #1 when AJ is gone. If you can get two starters in the draft (Star, Hopkins) you can fill in depth with free agents and undrafteds.

We were lucky that Star fell to us really lucky. When you get lucky it gives you room to take a chance and trade back up. It's only reaching if it doesn't work.

Worst case scenario I would have traded into the 3rd to get Keenan but they spent a lot of time with him so maybe they know something I don't.

One thing I wouldn't do is just sit dead in my chair and just take who ever is left

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When you try to fill a need with your picks is when you take Jimmy Clausen's and Terrell McClain's.

that happens when you've got a bad evaluator making the picks. not all reaches result in failure. it's not a bad thing to pick someone ranked a little lower on your board to make the team more balanced, esp. when you have someone who is a great evaluator.

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Too be very honest with you I would have tried real hard to get back in the first to take Hopkins like I kept telling people(you can check the threads)I knew he wouldn't have been there in the 2nd. I think he will be the texans #1 when AJ is gone. If you can get two starters in the draft (Star, Hopkins) you can fill in depth with free agents and undrafteds.

We were lucky that Star fell to us really lucky. When you get lucky it gives you room to take a chance and trade back up. It's only reaching if it doesn't work.

Worst case scenario I would have traded into the 3rd to get Keenan but they spent a lot of time with him so maybe they know something I don't.

One thing I wouldn't do is just sit dead in my chair and just take who ever is left

We'd wondered what you'd been up to, Marty.

Tell us more about how you would have give up a second in what looks to be the best draft in 10-20 years to pick up a WR who will be out of the league in 4 seasons.

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I'm just wondering what the game plan is for when smitty goes down or retires.

 

i get this feeling that WR is going to be addressed the same lame way that DT was addressed for years and I've seen nothing to change that perception.

 

you know we look back at the superbowl run and think, hey what did we do differently? and our minds go to that dominant DL that I'm gald we have again, but there's also something else...we took a shot on a short little WR who was more of just a return specialist with anger issues and a napoleon complex and we didn't spend even a first round on him, but we still took a chance even though there was no guarantee that he could supplant either starter and there were there were higher rated prospects on the board. we took a gamble that this little kid could amount to something and it paid off, but that was just luck. we were lucky that the gamble we made worked out like it did.

 

tbh, it's just never really been a priority with this team. the best attempts we've made was a second rounder from USC with work ethic issues and a QB that we hoped would somehow turn into a star and a third rounder and what else? 

 

we got lucky with smith. it should have been a bigger priority in other years. but the problem here is that we can't even get lucky with a draft pick if we don't use one. 

 

until it's made into an actual priority we'll be limited in what this offense can do long term, and i don't care who we have as QB.

gameplan is to complain about Cam...

 

Similar to the way people complain about Rivera not being a brilliant D mind and defensive gameplan's costing us ....despite him having a joke DT/LB group and weak secondary in 2011, and having no DTs and a joke for secondary talent in 12

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We addressed our biggest need....DT was easily our BIGGEST need.

 

Now we have to find a #1 WR, but we did what we set out to do in the draft IMO.

 

Make no mistake about it, however, we are not set at WR...not even close.

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