Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Happy Panther

16-Year-Old Florida Honor Student Charged With Two Felonies For Doing A Science Experiment

60 posts in this topic

So now Zero Tolerance laws in school are a race thing....gotcha.

 

 

 

There are are dozens of studies that show this to be true. Google it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So now Zero Tolerance laws in school are a race thing....gotcha.

 

Nice that some things never change in the TB.

No, but they are a stupid thing. You literally think the same punishment is appropriate, you just think that because this retarded rule is in place that we should throw common sense out the window just to make sure we follow the exact letter of the law.

If the rule is wrong, change it. Dont just be an asshole to everyone by rigidly enforcing it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No the rule should not be thrown out.

 

Explosives at school should be a one way ticket to the magistrates office and a permanent expulsion.

 

I dont give a damn how "harmless" the bomb was.  There should never be a scale for determining when it is and when it isn't ok for a student to construct and detonate a bomb at school.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No the rule should not be thrown out.

 

Explosives at school should be a one way ticket to the magistrates office and a permanent expulsion.

 

I dont give a damn how "harmless" the bomb was.  There should never be a scale for determining when it is and when it isn't ok for a student to construct and detonate a bomb at school.

A match meets all the definitions of a small bomb

Many things done in a chemistry class could be construed that way

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A match meets all the definitions of a small bomb

Many things done in a chemistry class could be construed that way

 

If they are "done in a chemistry class" they are not part of the policy.

 

The rule was very specific and the punishment for breaking it was very specific.

 

She is not a child.  Our teenagers need to learn that there are real consequences to their actions.  That rules are not there just to take up space on a piece of paper.

 

This is something that I think too many of today's generation don't get.  They think that if they believe it is a stupd rule, they should not have to comply with it.

 

As I said....lobby the school boards to change the rule.  But, don't expect to not be punished exactly like the policy says if you don't adhere to it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I dont give a damn how "harmless" the bomb was.  There should never be a scale for determining when it is and when it isn't ok for a student to construct and detonate a bomb at school.

 

It wasn't techinically a bomb. Bombs are weapons and usually don't include compressed gas reactions. Read the definitions.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomb

 

Bombs are weapons which can cause significant damage. Bombs require intent to injure. Bombs require explosive material.

 

The administration had to do some mental gymnastics to think this was anything close to a bomb in a layman's sense. This was a bomb as much as popping a paper bag is a bomb.

 

Which shows an overeager need to punish students. That didn't used to be a pricipal's job.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

She is not a child.  Our teenagers need to learn that there are real consequences to their actions.  That rules are not there just to take up space on a piece of paper.

 

This is something that I think too many of today's generation don't get.  They think that if they believe it is a stupd rule, they should not have to comply with it.

 

As I said....lobby the school boards to change the rule.  But, don't expect to not be punished exactly like the policy says if you don't adhere to it.

The problem is that these rules WONT EVEN BE ENFORCED. Like you said earlier, the charges will be dropped or reduced and she will be allowed back in school (way too much media around it now).

So what the fug was accomplished by pretending like they were going to enforce it?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It wasn't techinically a bomb. Bombs are weapons and usually don't include compressed gas reactions. Read the definitions.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomb

 

Bombs are weapons which can cause significant damage. Bombs require intent to injure. Bombs require explosive material.

 

The administration had to do some mental gymnastics to think this was anything close to a bomb in a layman's sense. This was a bomb as much as popping a paper bag is a bomb.

 

Which shows an overeager need to punish students. That didn't used to be a pricipal's job.

 

Oh good god...

 

I'm sorry I typed the word bomb out of laziness and didn't continue to use the term explosive device.  Techinically[sic] they classified it as a weapon and thats what she is being punished for. 

 

The semantic argument of what to call it has no bearing on the fact that the girl is getting what she deserves.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The problem is that these rules WONT EVEN BE ENFORCED. Like you said earlier, the charges will be dropped or reduced and she will be allowed back in school (way too much media around it now).

So what the fug was accomplished by pretending like they were going to enforce it?

 

Criminal charges get reduced all the time through deals and plea bargains.

 

As for the expulsion it may well stand. Her lawyer says:

 

 

 

That recommendation of expulsion goes through this process to the school board; Polk County School Board has the ultimate decision-making authority.
 
If they find that the individual committed the offense, that individual is automatically expelled for one year.

 

 

 
 
It doesn't sound like they have leeway. Maybe they can determine the experiment did not constitute a bomb and she technically did not break the rule.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The problem is that these rules WONT EVEN BE ENFORCED. Like you said earlier, the charges will be dropped or reduced and she will be allowed back in school (way too much media around it now).

So what the fug was accomplished by pretending like they were going to enforce it?

Scare the piss out of her so that she understands the concept of personal accountability and that rules/laws are to be followed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites