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#76 Icege

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:37 PM

I love DWill, but he isn't the same explosive home run threat that he was. He is not as quick nor as fast as he once was. A lot of his running plays consist of running into the back of the linemen and falling forward, unless he sees somebody get decleated to clear a cut back. JStew fits the offense better and ultimately that money needs to go somewhere else.

 



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:39 PM

Does it matter how often he goes off? He is still the only one capable of doing so. We all want playmakers on the team. But for some strange reason, DWill is not in the mix? Sure he is expensive. So what, so is the wife. But I ain't gonna cut her just like the Panthers are not going to cut DWill.

 

Until it actually happens, that DWill is cut, I am going to go about my business rooting for the Panthers. Warts and all.



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:44 PM

I love DWill, but he isn't the same explosive home run threat that he was. He is not as quick nor as fast as he once was. A lot of his running plays consist of running into the back of the linemen and falling forward, unless he sees somebody get decleated to clear a cut back. JStew fits the offense better and ultimately that money needs to go somewhere else.

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Stewy is the definition of plug and play. He offers nothing in the playmaking department. But by all means. Get rid of the one guy who can make the D worry about a homerun.

 

There are still things we can do to free up some money. But what are you going to do with it this year? Get an average RG? We can do that and keep DWill. Get an average TE or CB? We can also do those without losing DWill.

 

There are no options to add that make us significantly better like DWill is capable of doing. Not at this point in time.

 

 



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:48 PM

Does it matter how often he goes off? He is still the only one capable of doing so. We all want playmakers on the team. But for some strange reason, DWill is not in the mix? Sure he is expensive. So what, so is the wife. But I ain't gonna cut her just like the Panthers are not going to cut DWill.

 

Until it actually happens, that DWill is cut, I am going to go about my business rooting for the Panthers. Warts and all.

 

Since the NFL has a cap, and 32 FO's care how often your playmakers "go off", then yes, it matters in every sense of the word.  the problem is you aren't thinking this through..  And using your wife to compare DWill is completely irrelevant, for reasons already stated.  At his rate of "home run", you can jump off a ledge and assume Barner will do just as well.

 

To each their own, and yes, you are free to fully root for the Panthers as we all will, but that in itself is not going to keep him around.  

 

will he stick around this year?  I believe so..  Because of the cap.  Next year?  gone...



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:49 PM

DWill is the only Homerun threat in our Backfield. Until you replace that threat, he ain't going anywhere.

But, but, but, the money. So effing what.

But, but, but, Cam needs weapons. DWill is a weapon. An actual threat. OH, you meant WR.

But, but, but, we have always been mediocre, so we are destined to remain mediocre. Can't argue against fear.

But, but, but, until they show me wins, I will never have faith again. Never heard this one before. The ultimate threat from the disgruntled.

But, but, but, Shula. Fear of the past only clouds the view of the future. Don't fall into that trap.

Yes, yes, yes, this is going to be ... legan.... wait for it...dary. Good times ahead, I tell ya what.

How many playoffs games have we won with homerun threat Williams?

Okay, now go back and look at our postseason runs? Stephen Davis was almost funny looking when he got into the open field.

Consistant yards aka Stewart is more valuable than Williams running in place and breaking one every 20 touches.

Williams isn't the runner he use to be or simply this not the scheme for him to be close to it

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:52 PM

Since he was drafted, Stewart has played in 71 games.

during that same window, Williams has played in less games. So this whole " we got keep the uber expensive RB bc he is more reliable than Stewart"....isn't really true.

Yeah, I looked it up and edited my previous post with some extra comments/stats...



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:52 PM

I'll.never understand the marriage some fans make with individual players.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:54 PM

he's hardly durable more durable.

 

and thanks to their contracts i want both guys replaced. their production can be replaced easily by much cheaper alternatives.

I don't necessarily agree with that. I'd definitely keep one of them...



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:57 PM

I'll.never understand the marriage some fans make with individual players.

Are we going to act like you and Kuechly don't have a strong relationship??? :P



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:01 PM

Man...Iamhubby1 is a massive D-Will fanatic.

Dude, get the fug over it. D-Will is done in Carolina unless he takes a significant paycut which he has yet taken. DeAngelo is not irreplaceable nor is he a homerun threat. He's declining, and is being overpaid.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:08 PM

Good teams don't commit to old players, unless they're still producing at an elite level. Look at the Pats, they offered Welker a contract they thought was reasonable considering his recent play, and didn't budge when Denver offered him more. Packers departed from Charles Woodson and I can go on and on about how keeping old, overpaid, players isn't going to do anything but keep us at the bottom. OVERPAYING will keep us at the bottom. You don't deserve a huge contract unless you're the mainstay of your side of the ball. 



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:09 PM

Since the NFL has a cap, and 32 FO's care how often your playmakers "go off", then yes, it matters in every sense of the word.  the problem is you aren't thinking this through..  And using your wife to compare DWill is completely irrelevant, for reasons already stated.  At his rate of "home run", you can jump off a ledge and assume Barner will do just as well.

 

To each their own, and yes, you are free to fully root for the Panthers as we all will, but that in itself is not going to keep him around.  

 

will he stick around this year?  I believe so..  Because of the cap.  Next year?  gone...

 

 

How many playoffs games have we won with homerun threat Williams?

Okay, now go back and look at our postseason runs? Stephen Davis was almost funny looking when he got into the open field.

Consistant yards aka Stewart is more valuable than Williams running in place and breaking one every 20 touches.

Williams isn't the runner he use to be or simply this not the scheme for him to be close to it

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Bleys... DWill could be gone before this season even starts. Doesn't mean it is the right thing to do. Other than Smitty, DWill is our only Homerun threat. I just doesn't seem like a smart move cutting the one back that can take it to the house on any given play.

 

 

 

CRA. Where was Stewy last year? Or the year before that? We can plug in any back and get consistent yards. You have said that yourself. You go ahead and run Cam into the ground so you can say we have a Homerun threat in the backfield.

 

I really do appreciate that you two have this need to prove me wrong. I just don't happen to believe you. Where it concerns RBs, DWill is our only threat. It is true because it is proven.

 

When, and if, Gettlemen can replace the threat that DWill brings, then he may cut him. Until then. DWill is the only RB on our roster with homerun type, playmaking ability. So go ahead and handcuff our Offense to save a few bucks.

 

 

 

 



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:09 PM

Anyone who does not agree with this guy is a loser.

Sucks that when talking about DeAngelo we have to listen to a bunch of cap bs, discussions about how he's old, speculation that the team doesn't need him, and how we need to clear his contract money. Dude has been a great team player and hasn't shown the ability drop off and obviously plays his heart out. I choose to let the chips fall where they may, but it would be nice to see him retire a panther with his head held high. Quality player.

 



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:09 PM

when people say he has a lot of mileage, they aren't just referring to his NFL career...  

 


 

 

lol...  

 

 

Ok... He still did it vs an NFL defense. If you think that we're better off without D-will this season then you're not that smart. Once we actually gave him the ball last year( besides that read option weak sh*t), he shined.



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:10 PM

Yes, if Stewart missed games....we would have more than enough talent to run the ball.

answer: You can't label him a June 1 cut and go out today and use that cap space....it doesn't exist yet

Actually you can. You were allowed to cut 2 players and label them June 1 cuts.

Who Poole? The Rook? NO WAY!!! I haven't seen one play that would give me indications that we are perfectly fine if J Stew goes down and we cut Williams.


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