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IRS IG Report: Targeting Conservatives Began In 2010

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Yeah, & while we're at it we'll tax all groups that rely on public donations. Time to audit the red cross and salvation army. Whats acorn up to these days?

What is your issue with auditing?  It is a standard practice in business and government.  Or are you just not in favor of learning the truth?

 

ACORN was investigated thoroughly in 2010 and here is the result...

 

On Monday, June 14, a preliminary probe by the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO)of ACORN has found no evidence the association or related organizations mishandled the $40 million in federal money they received in recent years.

 

A review of grants by nine federal agencies found no problems with ACORN's grants.

 

The GAO, an independent, nonpartisan agency that works for Congress, is often called the "congressional watchdog." It investigates how the federal government spends taxpayer dollars.

Nearly two dozen members of Congress requested an investigation after a series of complaints against ACORN and its affiliates. The complaints included an embezzlement matter, several cases of voter registration fraud, and the release of edited and misleading videotapes, secretly made by conservative activists that appeared to implicate ACORN workers in several offices facilitating prostitution. In fact the staff in most of ACORN's offices turned the pair away, reported the couple to the police, refused to provide them any aid, and in one case tried to convince the phony prostitute to get counseling. In no ACORN office did employees file any paperwork or do anything illegal on the duo's behalf.

 

But Fox News broadcasted the deceptive tapes nearly around the clock for several days defaming ACORN.

While Republicans in Congress, who for years had accused ACORN of corruption, used the phony tapes to lead an effort to successfully strip the group of federal funding in 2009. Months later the group was exonerated from any wrongdoing by every official and independent investigation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-atlas/acorn-vindicated-of-wrong_b_612265.html

 

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At the end of the day, anyone hoping that this reaches up to the White House and Obama was directing the CIA to do this is probably going to be disappointed.

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Anyone seeing the trend here? 

 

Republicans, completely lacking in any substantive arguments as to why the public should vote for them in 2014, are resorting to their last and best hope... slinging chit like a tribe of irate monkeys, hoping that something, anything sticks.  It reeks of fear and desperation.

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Anyone seeing the trend here? 

 

Republicans, completely lacking in any substantive arguments as to why the public should vote for them in 2014, are resorting to their last and best hope... slinging chit like a tribe of irate monkeys, hoping that something, anything sticks.  It reeks of fear and desperation.

 

And liberals resorting to "move along, nothing to see here, these aren't the droids you're looking for" mentality. Awesome.

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Anyone seeing the trend here? 

 

Republicans, completely lacking in any substantive arguments as to why the public should vote for them in 2014, are resorting to their last and best hope... slinging chit like a tribe of irate monkeys, hoping that something, anything sticks.  It reeks of fear and desperation.

 

Did you just refer to an entire political party as monkeys? That's not very progressive of you.

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I read about this a couple days ago.  A couple of things to note:  

 

1. before you put your conspiracy hat on remember the head of the IRS was a Bush appointee at the time  

 

2.  these groups were being targeted to make sure their main purpose was not political in nature as such groups would not qualify.  Your non-profit can be politically active but it can't be your main purpose - having 'tea party' in your organization's name certainly raises a flag.

 

3.  it was clearly wrong, don't try to spin it otherwise

 

The AP article is much more informative than the little snippet from abc.  

 

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/irs-apologizes-targeting-conservative-groups

 

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And liberals resorting to "move along, nothing to see here, these aren't the droids you're looking for" mentality. Awesome.

As I mentioned in another thread, there are plenty of important issues for Congress to investigate.  This does not appear to be one of them.   

 

If Republicans want to uncover real corruption in the White House, look no further than the administration's close ties to Wall Street and an Attorney General that admitted he won't make an effort to prosecute the big banks for the financial melt down in 2008.  It would be a slam dunk, but it won't happen.  Why?  Because there would be too many people in Congress, on both sides of the aisle, caught with their hands in the cookie jar.  Same thing with the War in Iraq.   

 

Instead the American public is served up political theater on issues that lower level bureaucrats should be tasked with solving.  Congress is doing what Congress does, trying to look busy and score easy points against their political opponents, all-the-while avoiding the tough issues that require real work and sacrifice on their part. 

 

You know like the economy, jobs, health care, energy and environmental issues that actually impact our society and our children's futures.

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Did you just refer to an entire political party as monkeys? That's not very progressive of you.

No I didn't refer to republicans as monkeys.  

 

To be exact, what I said was, "Republicans... are slinging chit "like" a tribe of monkeys".  

 

But in a sense you are right, slinging chit is not conducive to progress.

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this is actually p outrageous

its like racial profiling

 

when you consider the fact that taxes are literally slavery, this is way worse than "just" racial profiling

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What if I consider both foundations for likely terrorism?

 

 

My concern here is someone directed the IRS to look into these groups for some reason.

 

It appears to be because they are questioning the tax system and/or were mostly (read all) conservative.

 

Replace "Tea Party" with Black/White/Baptist/Pagan/Short/Tall etc. The IRS was instructed to profile.  Peeps want to know why.

 

dick move: profiling anyone who is individually a conservative for extra analysis because they are conservatives.

 

utilitarian, justified, non-dick move: analyzing certain factions of conservative tea party organizations (not all conservatives are tea-partiers, which is why this headline on the OP is so misleading, probably intentionally so) for keywords that indicate fraudulent activity related to an ideology which is inherently anti-tax.

 

that's the difference between profiling and doing your job in this case, just like in airports where strip searching a person for being brown and wearing a turban is super douchey, but strip searching a person for being brown and wearing a turban dashing through airport security with a package hidden under a vest is due diligence. 

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