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IRS IG Report: Targeting Conservatives Began In 2010


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#13 NanuqoftheNorth

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:30 PM

Bravo! 

 

I call this a good start and long overdue.   These type of organizations, right or left leaning, need to be put under more rigorous inspection before being approved for tax exempt status.  Many of them are simply front organizations for big corporations attempting to push political agendas without risking damage to their carefully crafted public images.  The Citizens United ruling, "money equals free speech" has unleashed a flood of dark money, but these organizations, little more than thinly veiled PACs, have no right to expect tax exempt status while pushing a partisan political agenda. 

 

Now the IRS needs to go after the "mother" of all disingenuous, tax evading, political organizations... churches.

 

http://www.colbertna...ell-corporation

 



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:31 PM

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@EdMorrissey In Mar2010, IRS began targeting TEA Partiers, who opposed ObamaCare, which was signed into law Mar2010. #NotACoincidence



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:32 PM

Bravo! 

 

I call this a good start and long overdue.   These type of organizations, right or left leaning, need to be put under more rigorous inspection before being approved for tax exempt status.  Many of them are simply front organizations for big corporations attempting to push political agendas without risking damage to their carefully crafted public images.  The Citizens United ruling, "money equals free speech" has unleashed a flood of dark money, but these organizations, little more than thinly veiled PACs, have no right to expect tax exempt status while pushing a partisan political agenda. 

 

Now the IRS needs to go after the "mother" of all disingenuous, tax evading, political organizations... churches.

 

How dare people freely associate, collect funding, and support their cause. 



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:43 PM

Bravo! 

 

I call this a good start and long overdue.   These type of organizations, right or left leaning, need to be put under more rigorous inspection before being approved for tax exempt status.  Many of them are simply front organizations for big corporations attempting to push political agendas without risking damage to their carefully crafted public images.  The Citizens United ruling, "money equals free speech" has unleashed a flood of dark money, but these organizations, little more than thinly veiled PACs, have no right to expect tax exempt status while pushing a partisan political agenda. 

 

Now the IRS needs to go after the "mother" of all disingenuous, tax evading, political organizations... churches.

 

http://www.colbertna...ell-corporation

Yeah, & while we're at it we'll tax all groups that rely on public donations. Time to audit the red cross and salvation army. Whats acorn up to these days?



#17 NanuqoftheNorth

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 02:16 PM

How dare people freely associate, collect funding, and support their cause. 

To a point there is nothing wrong with that, but when an organization applies for tax exempt status, it should anticipate having to fill out numerous forms and anticipate IRS agents will try to verify the information provided.

 

It is not a big secret, there is a problem with money laundering in politics.  Especially in the last few elections.  The problem isn't that these applications were carefully vetted.  The problem is the IRS doesn't have the agents to thoroughly investigate all applicants.  Therefore, the IRS has to profile (something conservatives are usually in favor of) based on indicators (in this case words) that are most often associated with fraudulent behavior.

 



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 02:18 PM

To a point there is nothing wrong with that, but when an organization applies for tax exempt status, it should anticipate having to fill out numerous forms and anticipate IRS agents will try to verify the information provided.

 

It is not a big secret, there is a problem with money laundering in politics.  Especially in the last few elections.  The problem isn't that these applications were carefully vetted.  The problem is the IRS doesn't have the agents to thoroughly investigate all applicants.  Therefore, the IRS has to profile (something conservatives are usually are in favor of) based on indicators (in this case words) that are most often associated with fraudulent behavior.

 

Seriously? Wow. Are you really Jay Carney?



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 02:21 PM

Haven't read through this thoroughly, and since it's Ezra Klein I'm sure people will dismiss it outright, but...

http://www.washingto...s-dumb-mistake/

 

 

The story thus far seems both chilling and cheering. Employees at the agency’s Cincinnati branch did employ a test that, in effect, targeted tea party groups. Whether they meant it to be discriminatory or they simply created one that was discriminatory is in contention, but ultimately immaterial. The IRS, more so than almost any other agency, must act in ways above reproach.

 

But when the Cincinnati group explained their test to IRS exempt organizations division chief Lois G. Lerner, she objected to it and it was changed. A few months later, the IRS would release new guidance that suggested scrutinizing “political action type organizations involved in limiting/expanding Government, educating on the Constitution and Bill of Rights, social economic reform movement,” and after that, “organizations with indicators of significant amounts of political campaign intervention (raising questions as to exempt purpose and/or excess private benefit.)”
 
The context for all this is that after Citizens United and some related decisions, the number of groups registering as 501©4s doubled. Because the timing of that doubling coincided with a rise in political activism on the right rather than the left, a lot of the politicized groups attempting to register as 501©4s were describing their purpose in tea party terms. A popular conceit, for instance, was that they existed to educate on the Constitution — even if the particular pedagogical method meant participating in Republican Party primaries and pressuring incumbent politicians.
 
In looking for that kind of language in 2010, the Cincinnati employees were attempting to create a usable shortcut. Like Willie Sutton robbing banks, they were going where the action was. But they needed a clearer test that also identified the language of the left, even if left-leaning groups weren’t exhibiting the same surge in activism. And, frankly, it shouldn’t have been left to career employees in Cincinnati. The IRS needed clearer rules coming from the top. But the top didn’t know what to do with these 501©4s, in part because it feared a situation precisely like this one.
 
It is worth remembering an important fact here: The IRS is supposed to reject groups that are primarily political from registering as 501©4s. If they’re going to do that, then they need some kind of test that helps them flag problematic applicants. And that test will have to be a bit impressionistic. It will mean taking the political rhetoric of the moment and watching for it in applications. It will require digging into the finances and activities of groups on the left and the right that seem to be political even as they’re promising their activities are primarily non-political.

 



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 02:40 PM

Pretty sure that 29% is above 30% now. Keep it going...

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 02:48 PM

Yeah, & while we're at it we'll tax all groups that rely on public donations. Time to audit the red cross and salvation army. Whats acorn up to these days?

What is your issue with auditing?  It is a standard practice in business and government.  Or are you just not in favor of learning the truth?

 

ACORN was investigated thoroughly in 2010 and here is the result...

 

On Monday, June 14, a preliminary probe by the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO)of ACORN has found no evidence the association or related organizations mishandled the $40 million in federal money they received in recent years.

 

A review of grants by nine federal agencies found no problems with ACORN's grants.

 

The GAO, an independent, nonpartisan agency that works for Congress, is often called the "congressional watchdog." It investigates how the federal government spends taxpayer dollars.

Nearly two dozen members of Congress requested an investigation after a series of complaints against ACORN and its affiliates. The complaints included an embezzlement matter, several cases of voter registration fraud, and the release of edited and misleading videotapes, secretly made by conservative activists that appeared to implicate ACORN workers in several offices facilitating prostitution. In fact the staff in most of ACORN's offices turned the pair away, reported the couple to the police, refused to provide them any aid, and in one case tried to convince the phony prostitute to get counseling. In no ACORN office did employees file any paperwork or do anything illegal on the duo's behalf.

 

But Fox News broadcasted the deceptive tapes nearly around the clock for several days defaming ACORN.

While Republicans in Congress, who for years had accused ACORN of corruption, used the phony tapes to lead an effort to successfully strip the group of federal funding in 2009. Months later the group was exonerated from any wrongdoing by every official and independent investigation.

http://www.huffingto...g_b_612265.html

 



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 02:57 PM

At the end of the day, anyone hoping that this reaches up to the White House and Obama was directing the CIA to do this is probably going to be disappointed.



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 03:08 PM

Anyone seeing the trend here? 

 

Republicans, completely lacking in any substantive arguments as to why the public should vote for them in 2014, are resorting to their last and best hope... slinging chit like a tribe of irate monkeys, hoping that something, anything sticks.  It reeks of fear and desperation.



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 03:40 PM

Anyone seeing the trend here? 

 

Republicans, completely lacking in any substantive arguments as to why the public should vote for them in 2014, are resorting to their last and best hope... slinging chit like a tribe of irate monkeys, hoping that something, anything sticks.  It reeks of fear and desperation.

 

And liberals resorting to "move along, nothing to see here, these aren't the droids you're looking for" mentality. Awesome.