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#31 BelgianPantherFan

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 06:43 AM

And BTW, if Cam hadn't had any weapons, we wouldn't be able to have that amount of ball posession we did last 7 games. We should be fine this year, althought WR will be a crucial draft pick next year imo.

 

And I really do hope we get another OL FA.



#32 Matthias

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 06:43 AM

The Patriots have the WORST wide receiving corp in the league.  And they plug and play nobody's in at RB.

 

So, shows that NFLAM has no clue what they are talking about.

 

 

I wouldn't say that.  Those two tight ends alone when healthy, makes the Patriots a top 5 receiving core.  Yet during the Patriots superbowl years, Brady wasn't working with great receiver talent.  Troy Brown was good, but he wasn't a superstar.



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 06:46 AM

The Patriots have the WORST wide receiving corp in the league.  And they plug and play nobody's in at RB.

 

So, shows that NFLAM has no clue what they are talking about.

 

 

We don't have the coaching staff for that "No Defense" philosophy those teams subscribe to.

 

And I am happy about that.

 

The Giants have a franchise QB in Eli with adequate weapons and a good defense. Gettleman might be leaning more this way after seeing it win Superbowls.

I'm not saying I agree with them, just stating that's what was discussed.

 

I liked our picks.  Now, did I cringe when they called Patterson and Hunter's names off the board during the draft?  Yes.  But, you can't argue with our picks - we needed them.

 

I saw them discussing it on a segment citing Manning and Brady, but saying teams were trying to do the same with younger QBs to prop them up for the time being, namely Sam Bradford...  So, I would love to be able to do that for Cam, but Cam doesn't need that IMO.  Cam makes the others around him better.  Also, a team like the Rams spent years compiling young prospects on the defense, so they're in a position to keep adding guys on offense.



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 06:46 AM

Also, even though LaFell is only in his fourth year, I don't have too much confidence he's a good number two.  Is he serviceable?  Perhaps.  Yet I would regulate him to your number three possesion receiver if you asked me.  I would promote Hixon to the number two. (Unless Gettis finally showed up.  Gettis is the only homegrown receiver we have, that has any potential of becoming a great receiver.)



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 06:50 AM

I did not see the talent that was available where we picked unless we reached.

If you want and need a player....you go get him. You could argue lots of "reaches" if you look at the draft just through one teams eyes.

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 06:53 AM

Do you spend tons of money on an offense to surround Cam while risking not being able to afford him long term? Or do you spend an average amount on the offense around him, sign him long term, and hope he can elevate players ala Tom Brady.


No like I have said...you should be consistantly DRAFTING young talent to grow up with Cam. We aren't....with Cam entering his 3 yr that makes what we are doing uniquely odd.

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 06:55 AM

I would much rather have another TE in our passing game than another number  2 or 3 WR this year.



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 06:56 AM

If Cam needs more weapons that Stew, DWill, Tolbert, Smitty, LaFell, Hixon, Ginn, Olsen to be successful......then he is nowhere near the QB that we all believe he is.


Lets take the RBs off the table for these talks...you mean if needs more than a WR that could easily retire after this year, 2 castoff WR rentals, and Brandon LaFell?

And a solid TE.

Meanwhile, guys like Peyton Mannning grew up throwing to super studs.

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 07:05 AM

You also have to consider the source of the opinion. Jamie Dukes is the worst analyst on sports television. He will constantly interrupt others on NFL Network because he feels his opinion is way more valuable the any other. On top of that, he is the biggest Falcons homer.

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 07:08 AM

Matt Ryan throws to three superstar cats every season, how many rings he got?



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 07:13 AM

Matt Ryan throws to three superstar cats every season, how many rings he got?


4 straight postseasons....at least they go to the dance and have a shot

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 07:16 AM

Maybe its just me but I think we are fine. Eventually we will need to get someone but as of right now we are ok. I like this team we have. Like zod said, Olsen is a good target. I just wish we went to him more often.



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 07:17 AM

Lets take the RBs off the table for these talks...you mean if needs more than a WR that could easily retire after this year, 2 castoff WR rentals, and Brandon LaFell?

And a solid TE.

Meanwhile, guys like Peyton Mannning grew up throwing to super studs.

 

I think you have a valid argument with respect to bringing in a guy to replace Smitty. With regards to your second point, Cam Newton is not Payton Manning . They are not even similar therefore the offensive schemes  and supporting cast should be different. The supporting staff for Manning should look much different than Cams with his experience in the league .Payton is one of the best at multiple reads and a quick release therefore you can leverage multiple WRs, I think Cam needs mismatches such as a TE can present plus Cam thrives in schemes that gives the ability to take off and multiple TEs are much more suited for that.They also give him big physical targets. 



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 07:17 AM

4 straight postseasons....at least they go to the dance and have a shot

 

We could have been in the dance last year, if we only used the weapons we have and would have stopped the crazy playcalling.



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 07:20 AM

I agree with CRA. We are doing Cam a disservice by only giving him Jake's old parts to work with. His best receiver is still an old Steve Smith and he's a better more durable RB at this point than the ones who carry the ball all the time for him. I expect our defense to be more consistent in 2013, but the offense is gonna take a step back. And guess who will get the majority of the blame for it? It still feels like LeBron in Cleveland.




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