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Scathing article about Beason and his contract

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Gin and Juice    716

You can just look up the production stats... its pretty damn clear.

Since pep went to chicago

pep has 130 tackles, 30.5 sacks, and 7 FF.

CJ has 143 tackles, 33 sacks, and 9 FF.

Sure it isn't a massive difference in production, but when you compare their contracts we easily have the better contract.

We lucked into a better deal, no doubt! At the same time, Pep hasn't been living up to his contract either

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Frizzy350    1,120

Per pro football reference, in that time span.

CJ has 1.5 more sacks

Pep has 1 more FF

Pep has 5 more FR

Pep has 2 more INTs

Pep has 7 more PD

CJ has 13 more tackles

 

 

Well one source is wrong obv.  And we are really gonna include pass defenses?

 

Can we also add in random stats from PFF and what not showing CJs superior pass rushing productivity?

 

Case in point is that considering what each player gets paid (and their respective age), the grass is greener over here.

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Gin and Juice    716

Outside of maybe Jared Allen, what other 4-3 DEs are better than CJ? I highly doubt you can name more than 3...

I mean Pierre Paul certainly has more talent... but he's pretty darn inconsistent.

Peppers is in the same boat.

Wake I know floated about as a pass rushing 3-4 OLB for a bit... not entirely sure where that puts him.

Chris Long is a really solid young and up and coming player but I wouldn't say he's as good as CJ.

CJ is easily in that blurry top 5 area in terms of being an all around effective 4-3 DE.

As far as 4-3 DE, he is in a blurry top 5, as of last year!

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CRA    12,265

Outside of maybe Jared Allen, what other 4-3 DEs are better than CJ? I highly doubt you can name more than 3...

I mean Pierre Paul certainly has more talent... but he's pretty darn inconsistent.

Peppers is in the same boat.

Wake I know floated about as a pass rushing 3-4 OLB for a bit... not entirely sure where that puts him.

Chris Long is a really solid young and up and coming player but I wouldn't say he's as good as CJ.

CJ is easily in that blurry top 5 area in terms of being an all around effective 4-3 DE.

CJ isn't Mr. Conisistant either....there was a lot of moaning this past year about him not doing enough.

For example...CJ had 10 games with no sacks in 2012.

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CRA    12,265

Well one source is wrong obv. And we are really gonna include pass defenses?

Can we also add in random stats from PFF and what not showing CJs superior pass rushing productivity?

Case in point is that considering what each player gets paid (and their respective age), the grass is greener over here.

Peppers IMO was never a pure pass rusher....diversity is what made him special. He was freakishly diverse.

CJ is a better pass rusher IMO despite not even being a speed rusher. Pep can do more well IMO.

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MHS831    4,849

Even if he plays very well this season, he is wildly over paid for an OLB.

He either restructures next year or will be released.

Arguably, he was overpaid for a MLB as well.   He was not the best in the NFL. 

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CPF4LIFE    3,778

Arguably, he was overpaid for a MLB as well.   He was not the best in the NFL. 

 

If he wasnt number 1 he was definitely a close number 2 at the time behind Willis. Willis got an insane contract from the Niners so therefore Beason warranted close if not more than the same thing. Thats the way it went.

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SmootsDaddy89    2,015

lol at all the people who still act like Marty Hurney did towards players.

 

Beason will take a pay cut, or just a cut, that simple.

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Vagrant    543

Nobody gives money back in this league. We all know what NFL stands for. Players play the contracts they're given and if you don't like it, you cut them. Aside from that, Beason hasn't been approached about a restructure apparently. Meh.

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Red Zone    68

Even though I'm new to posting, I have been following this forum for a while now. I am sometimes amazed at how many fair weather fans we have on here. I realize Beason hasn't been at full speed for a couple of seasons now, but it wasn't really that long ago he was playing like the Beast he is.

 

I also don't understand those questioning his leadership. He is absolutely a leader on this team both on and off the field. He is a professional at all times, and when healthy he plays as hard as any player on the team.

 

How can we question his character? I do not know him personally, and I expect that's true for 99% of the posters on this site. I cannot know his motivation, and I certainly don't blame him for taking the money he was offered. I see a player who has been selfless and supported Luke's success in the middle with a great deal of humility.

 

I think the article was BS, and I believe when the situation presents itself, Jon will step up and be a team player. I am confident he will return to his earlier Pro Bowl form and be awesome on the field. Just my opinion.

 

 

 

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nagai    74

Beason's doing nothing wrong. We have cap, his job in in jeopardy, you would do the same thing. A lot of you guys are letting your emotions get in the way. You seem to think that fans are betraying Beason somehow by saying he's a liability. You can cheer for someone even though you think they're passed their prime.

 

Before anyone gets all defensive, yes, Beason's in trouble. He wasn't that good last year, go check his PFF grades. Now he's suffered another season ending injury, playing in a position he's never strived in. Yes, he's played OLB before, but never as well as what he did at MLB. He BETTER be ready to take a pay cut next year.

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MHS831    4,849

If he wasnt number 1 he was definitely a close number 2 at the time behind Willis. Willis got an insane contract from the Niners so therefore Beason warranted close if not more than the same thing. Thats the way it went.

I said "arguably" because I see both sides.  I agree--however, Beason was a notch below Willis but Hurney paid Beason more than Willis, if I am not mistaken.  You could argue both sides all day.  Beason was worth more then and in the middle than he is now.  However, Beason is one of those contageous, Ray Lewis-type leaders who makes everyone around him better.

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