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Scathing article about Beason and his contract

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Happens all the time when your value in the industry you work in isn't as much as you think it is.

So your company is paying you (for an example) $100,000 per year, but they don't want to pay that to you anymore. They want you to take a paycut. If they fire you, you'll be able to make $35,000 a year at most at a new job.

So do you keep your hands on that $100,000 and then make $35,000 a year for the next 4 years ($240,000 total minus moving costs)?

Or do you take the paycut with the company that's willing to keep you at $70,000 per year for this year as well as the next 4 years ($350,000 total and no dislocation)?

You don't think that happens in the real world? I can assure you that it does. When your employer has leverage, they use it.

the NFL isn't the real world though and don't forget that, they are apples to oranges in how they operate never blame a player for what he makes because every contract could be his last because of the constant looming of career ending injuries, that's the reason the contracts are there.

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To wipe his contract off the books completely we cut him now and 16 million dollars hit the cap.

 

June 1st cut, 8  million hits this year and 8 million next year.  

 

We're paying that no matter what.  He's making 9.6 million this year so we're basically keeping him because too much money would hit the cap if we cut him and he's worth more to us playing than cutting since we're paying anyway.

 

I don't think you understand how the cap works.

 

 

Who said anything about cutting him, but rest assured that if it comes to that then it will be a June 1st cut.

 

Point is, he is hogging too much room at the feed trough and something has to give! Something will give

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the NFL isn't the real world though and don't forget that, they are apples to oranges in how they operate never blame a player for what he makes because every contract could be his last because of the constant looming of career ending injuries, that's the reason the contracts are there.

 

Agreed.  The nature of injuries and non-guaranteed contracts definitely make my comparison non-perfect, that's for sure.

 

From a broad point of view, it works.

 

From a detailed point of view, not a perfect match.

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Probably should take what he says with a grain of salt that guy absolutely loathes the Panthers and isn't shy about letting everyone know this, he will take any chance to take a shot at the Panthers.

I think everybody can see based on production the past two seasons that Beason is being overpaid, I think other than that fact he's just speculating out of thin air as to the rest of his article.

I wouldn't say he loathes the panthers. He definitely doesn't pull for them as he is some weird baseball New York Yankee fan for whatever that's worth. He is one of those guys who thinks he is smarter than he is and carries a superior attitude that doesn't really fit his station in life. he is mostly piss and vinegar and never really has a positive thing to say. He does however pay attention to what goes on and isn't really in the shock journalism mode. Not to defend him or anything but I know he has been covering this area for a long time and he undoubtedly has sources he trusts. This probably isn't that far off base unfortunately. I don't want to believe it either.

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Once more, you can't fault Beason for the contract that was given to him. Until he's asked to take a paycut, there's no argument to be had. Jon earned the contract. Plain and simple.

No, Second-Team counts too. You may not view it so but you aren't in control of what is considered 'significant'. By the by, if you actually bothered to read some of the articles, a few analysts thought that Beason deserved First-Team honours.

Not faulting Beason....I have always argued it is business. Why I think he will take every penny he can and go play MLB somewhere once Carolina is in a postion to address his deal

But it is what it is...and you don't pay an OLB the highest MLB contract in NFL history. Carolina just has zero leverage today.

If 2nd team All Pro counts what about Pro Bowl alternates for bragging rights then....

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Ain't a single player on this team worth what Beason is making right now.

Not.

One.

Production wise....only Cam is close

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Production wise....only Cam is close

 

Agreed, but not yet.

 

After this year, I think he'll easily have that kind of value and the Panthers will be getting a helluva bargain.

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The Panthers haven't even approached him about taking a pay cut according to Joe Person.  At this point they may not even feel that it's necessary being that they have a reported $9.8 mil in cap space.

 

Yea, if they haven't approached him then it's no big deal.  And I can fully believe it, because in every other sense and every other case he seems to be a complete class act and stand up guy.  I know the media has approached the subject with him and he's said he wants to earn the money on his contract (implying he doesn't want to restructure) but that doesn't mean he'd be unwilling to.

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For a team with the defense as its signature I don't think a great player like Beaston is that expendable. It all depends on how we win or lose this year. If we hold offenses to 17-20 points, we need to keep that nucleus.

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This is a hypocritical forum.  So many of you will scream at the 2nd year player holding out because he wants more money.  EVERYONE is screaming, fug no, get your ass on the field.  You signed a contract so you play for what you agreed to. 

 

Did the contract have a injury clause where he would renegotiate or restructure?  NO

 

Stick to the damn contract.

 

Hurney gave him a deal similar to Willis in SF.  Clearly as good if not better than Willis (prior to the injuries) So I didn't have an issue with the deal.  Injuries happen.  Beason would be on that field honoring his contract if he could. (IMO I think he did last year too long)  Giving us 180%.  Most of you know it to. 

 

He signed a contract and there is NOTHING wrong with making Carolina keep their part of the contract.

 

Furthermore, We juggled money on Gross and Williams.  They didn't lose any money.  That is only Gettleman doing some creative financing. Maybe he is working on it, maybe there isn't a good way to do it.  

 

I hardly believe that Beason is such an ass that he would not allow some creative financing to benefit himself and the team.

 

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