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#11 mountainpantherfan2

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 06:55 AM

I think you guys are reading way too much into this. All Rivera was saying is that Shula didn't walk in with his own play book. Rather he's taken the existing one and reforming it with input from the coaching staff that maximises the strengths of the players.

And the aggressive comment I think is just a nice way of saying he's going to run the ball instead of trying to insert every trick play known to man.

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 07:21 AM

I do think that Newton will have a lot of freedom to call audibles and change things at the line.  He is going into year 3 and showed toward the end of the season that he could protect the ball and make good decisions.  I don't think Chud thought he could though.  If I remember correctly there was some discussion at the beginning of the year suggesting that the staff didn't think newton could pick up the offense they created and were trying to simplify it so he could pick it up.  Then later in the year they simplified things so Newton could play faster. 

 

Did I make that up or was there some discussion along the way last year.....



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 07:28 AM

IIRC there was some off-the-record talk that fueled speculation about that, but of course no one ever came right out and said so.

 

For now, I'm hoping that Shula's conservative play calling is geared around the Joe Gibbs school of thought--run what works until they finally stop it.  Our playbook could be the least imaginative in NFL history, but if it moves the chains I'll be happy.



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 07:32 AM

IIRC there was some off-the-record talk that fueled speculation about that, but of course no one ever came right out and said so.

 

For now, I'm hoping that Shula's conservative play calling is geared around the Joe Gibbs school of thought--run what works until they finally stop it.  Our playbook could be the least imaginative in NFL history, but if it moves the chains I'll be happy.

Then again you loved Henning's offense when he was here.  Remember the always hike the ball on the first sound to avoid confusion.  Sometimes the defense got there before the center could snap it to the quarterback....

Just saying.......................



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 07:36 AM

If I was Shula I would not like this at all.

 

He needs to make a mark as a legit OC and get back in the game. Instead, it isn't even his offense, its the panthers offense?

 

What message does that send to him in the confidence RIvera has?



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 07:38 AM

Hopefully its a ridiculous notion to think that Shula's conservative nature and past weren't discussed during his interview process.  The had to ask him if he felt comfortable calling the gutsy play in a big time situation.  Not only would/should they ask if he's comfortable I'm sure/hoping they asked him to show them his plan for different scenarios.  I'm assuming/hoping a lot here but I try to think that Shula's interview wasn't a sweet tea sipping, story telling, contract signing, team destroying move. 



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 07:41 AM

If I was Shula I would not like this at all.

He needs to make a mark as a legit OC and get back in the game. Instead, it isn't even his offense, its the panthers offense?

What message does that send to him in the confidence RIvera has?


Shula has Cam...

Which means nationally he will be viewed as a "mad scientist" by week 8....just like crappy coaches Chud, Shanahan, etc have thanks to letting a freak athlete simply take the field for the most part.

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 07:43 AM

Hopefully its a ridiculous notion to think that Shula's conservative nature and past weren't discussed during his interview process.  The had to ask him if he felt comfortable calling the gutsy play in a big time situation.  Not only would/should they ask if he's comfortable I'm sure/hoping they asked him to show them his plan for different scenarios.  I'm assuming/hoping a lot here but I try to think that Shula's interview wasn't a sweet tea sipping, story telling, contract signing, team destroying move. 

 

The fact that they looked pretty hard to find an external hire tells me Shula's interview was not a cake walk. In the end he must have showed them enough to feel comfortable that he was the best hope at continuity and a winning season. An external hire at OC would have brought an almost sure breaking in period for a new offense.



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 07:45 AM

I think the whole coordinator "by committee" philosophy is flawed. If poo hits the fan the front office can pull the ol' Abbott & Costello "Who's on first" routine. But I'm just a sales guy so what do I know?

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 07:49 AM

Then again you loved Henning's offense when he was here.  Remember the always hike the ball on the first sound to avoid confusion.  Sometimes the defense got there before the center could snap it to the quarterback....

Just saying.......................

 

I love any offense that moves the chains. :)


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