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#1 Zod

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 07:27 AM

Pretty interesting....

 

http://www.politico....ses-164324.html

 

 

President Obama on Sunday urged the graduates of historically black Morehouse College not to rely on “excuses” and to take responsibility for more than just themselves.

“One of the things you’ve learned over the last four years is there’s no longer any room for excuses,” he told the Atlanta college’s 500 male graduates, in a rare speech on what he sees as the obligations that young black men have to themselves, their families and their communities.

“We’ve got no time for excuses – not because the bitter legacies of slavery and segregation have vanished entirely; they haven’t,” he said. “It’s not because racism and discrimination no longer exist; that’s still out there. It’s just that in today’s hyperconnected, hypercompetitive world, with a billion young people from China and India and Brazil entering the global workforce alongside you, nobody is going to give you anything you haven’t earned.”

And, he said, while being black may sometimes pose obstacles, “whatever hardships you may experience because of your race … pale in comparison to the hardships previous generations endured – and overcame.”

 

Bill Cosby said essentially the same thing a few years ago. I don't think this the message Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson put out.

 

So who is today's most influential civil rights leader? Wouldn't it have to be Obama? Will this increase or decrease his influence depending on how well it is received.



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 07:31 AM

Tons of respect for him saying that. An unpopular but true statement.

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 07:38 AM

Sincerely interested in KT's take on it. I remember KT blasted Bill Cosby a few years back for the things he said.



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 07:43 AM

Bill Cosby came off more the rantings of a bitter old man. Obama's speech is more like practical advice.

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:07 AM

Obama is not a civil rights leader, he's a politician. And using a distinguished school like Morehouses graduation to give this speech is funny. Maybe at a youth center it would be appropriate, but at an event filled with future doctors and lawyers. These students obviously havent made "excuses" pursuing their education. Obama and Bill Cosby say these things to gain approval with whites and it looks like it worked.

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:09 AM

And using a distinguished school like Morehouses graduation to give this speech is funny. Maybe at a youth center it would be appropriate, but at an event filled with future doctors and lawyers. These students obviously havent made "excuses" pursuing their education. 

This was my thought too.



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:14 AM

Obama is not a civil rights leader, he's a politician. And using a distinguished school like Morehouses graduation to give this speech is funny. Maybe at a youth center it would be appropriate, but at an event filled with future doctors and lawyers. These students obviously havent made "excuses" pursuing their education. Obama and Bill Cosby say these things to gain approval with whites and it looks like it worked.

 

He is no more a politician than Sharpton or Jackson.

 

Is it possible that Obama knew this speech would make national airwaves, and that maybe he used the opportunity to speak to millions of black youth and not the couple thousand graduates?

 

So you feel Obama is pandering to whites by saying these things? Does that make him racist?



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:20 AM

Obama is not a civil rights leader, he's a politician. And using a distinguished school like Morehouses graduation to give this speech is funny. Maybe at a youth center it would be appropriate, but at an event filled with future doctors and lawyers. These students obviously havent made "excuses" pursuing their education. Obama and Bill Cosby say these things to gain approval with whites and it looks like it worked.

 

Why exactly does Obama or Cosby need to increase their "white" approval at this point?

 

Obama has been polarizing no matter what, but he has been twice elected and has a dedicated majority base.

 

Cosby is a multimillionaire and generally adored by all of his fans. He is also quasi-retired.

 

Obama says 

“We’ve got no time for excuses – not because the bitter legacies of slavery and segregation have vanished entirely; they haven’t,” he said. “It’s not because racism and discrimination no longer exist; that’s still out there. It’s just that in today’s hyperconnected, hypercompetitive world, with a billion young people from China and India and Brazil entering the global workforce alongside you, nobody is going to give you anything you haven’t earned.”

And, he said, while being black may sometimes pose obstacles, “whatever hardships you may experience because of your race … pale in comparison to the hardships previous generations endured – and overcame.”

 

and he is seeking white approval?

 

 

I wish he would go to lower income area's (not defined by race mind you, just lower income area's in general) and tell people "nobody is going to give you anything you haven’t earned" .  
Instilling the knowledge in low income area's that it's a tough road ahead and you have to bring your A game every day could help many youth's break some the trends that can be evident in those areas.



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:22 AM

One could argue that speaking these things in front of a class of successful young people only drives home his message to the rest of the nation.



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:25 AM

. Obama and Bill Cosby say these things to gain approval with whites and it looks like it worked.

 

A message of hard work, responsibility, and perseverance isn't something that only whites approve of. Its the message this entire country was founded on. It is a uniquely American sentiment. Shouldn't people of all races be inspired by it?



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:27 AM

Could be pretty safe for Obama to say this in front of a group of high acheivers. They would have no problems at all with what he is saying. So, I agree that he was then using this speech for others (or his own) benefit.

A bold speech would be to give this speech in Detroit.

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:34 AM

A bold speech would be to give this speech in Detroit.

 

Pretty easy to see how that could have been turned into an "Obama speaking holier than thou to poor minorities" headline.

 

I think making this speech with hundreds of people as living proof in attendance is a better message to the youth.



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:39 AM

Cosby has been saying this for decades. It was what, early 90s when he said nothing good can happen after 1am? IMHO Cosby has always stress personal responsibility.

 

Now if we can get Obama to do a picture pages skit.....that I'd like to see.



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:52 AM

Obama is not a civil rights leader, he's a politician. And using a distinguished school like Morehouses graduation to give this speech is funny. Maybe at a youth center it would be appropriate, but at an event filled with future doctors and lawyers. These students obviously havent made "excuses" pursuing their education. Obama and Bill Cosby say these things to gain approval with whites and it looks like it worked.

 

 

 

That's not what Obama was saying, if you read his actual words.  He was saying that these graduates need to go out and pass this knowledge on and be role models for others in the black community.

 

Just a few select quotes:

 

One of the things you’ve learned over the last four years is there’s no longer any room for excuses,” - he's saying they already know they won't get anywhere with excuses.

 

“be a good role model and set a good example for that young brother coming up.”

 

 

 

“It betrays a poverty of ambition if all you think about is what goods you can buy instead of what good you can do,” he said, suggesting that those who go on to become lawyers “find time to defend the powerless” or that those who go into business consider “what broader purpose your business might serve, in putting people to work, or transforming a neighborhood.”

 

“Keep setting an example for what it means to be a man,” he said. “Be the best husband to your wife, or boyfriend to your partner, or father to your children that you can be. Because nothing is more important.”

 

 

 

 

I only wish more black leaders would push these messages.



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 11:19 AM

Our best and brightest get "pound cake" speeches on their graduation day.

Meanwhile the murder rate in Obama's hometown is thru the roof and not a word or action from the Prez. Wont even consider the lost lives a "national tragedy" since theyre not white.

Obama is a politician, he has never been activist or civil rights leader.


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