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DaveThePanther2008

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How do you say this team is a playoffs team?  They went 7-9 last year, play in one of the toughest divisions, of which all of the teams have arguably made more moves to get better than we have. 

 

Because we were about 3 or 4 bad plays away from a wildcard berth last season. We'd have been bumped out pretty much right away, but still.

 

Also, not sure why you think we're being lapped by our division. If anything, we seem to be neck and neck with everyone else.

 

  • Tampa filled in their secondary but lost their pass rush.
  • Atlanta filled in their secondary but you and I could play DE/DT for them.
  • Saints are switching defensive alignments and are coming off a season in which they set records for being horrible on defense. Grabbed a S.

 

We've already got the biggest piece in place (pass rush) and really bolstered the DLine.  Our secondary is suspect. We match up well against the current best team in the division (ATL).

 

Personally, I think we have a pretty decent shot of making the playoffs, barring something unforeseen.

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How do you say this team is a playoffs team?  They went 7-9 last year, play in one of the toughest divisions, of which all of the teams have arguably made more moves to get better than we have. 

 

Cam fumbles or Nak does not brain fart.....we beat Atlanta.

 

Smitty does not fall down after we dominated Chicago all day....we beat Chicago

 

Cam does not throw the 4yd pass into the dirt instead of to a wide open Hartsock...we beat Seattle

 

Rivera does not brain fart and play prevent against TB (while up by 11 with 3 min to go)...we beat TB

 

 

This team was easily a 10 win team last season...plain and simple.

 

If we would have won 2-3 of those fluke games, we would be considered a contender this season.

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All fine answers.  Trust me....I'm extremely optimistic, but it's with caution.  Until we can prove that we can close games then we're not a playoff team.  Going against our schedule next year, there's no way you can assume we're a top 8 team.  Especially when you would assume that SF-Seattle are both getting in.  That leaves our division and then a Wild Card.  From 7-9 to 13-3 to catch ATL is a long way to go.  Hell....10 wins didn't even get teams in last year.

 

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All fine answers.  Trust me....I'm extremely optimistic, but it's with caution.  Until we can prove that we can close games then we're not a playoff team.  Going against our schedule next year, there's no way you can assume we're a top 8 team.  Especially when you would assume that SF-Seattle are both getting in.  That leaves our division and then a Wild Card.  From 7-9 to 13-3 to catch ATL is a long way to go.  Hell....10 wins didn't even get teams in last year.

Can't know how hard the schedule is until the season starts to play out.

 

I have seen seasons where the hardest schedule turned out to be middle of the pack.

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Cam fumbles or Nak does not brain fart.....we beat Atlanta.

 

Smitty does not fall down after we dominated Chicago all day....we beat Chicago

 

Cam does not throw the 4yd pass into the dirt instead of to a wide open Hartsock...we beat Seattle

 

Rivera does not brain fart and play prevent against TB (while up by 11 with 3 min to go)...we beat TB

 

 

This team was easily a 10 win team last season...plain and simple.

 

If we would have won 2-3 of those fluke games, we would be considered a contender this season.

 

Yes...but we DIDN'T win those games.  For two years now we have not won those kind of games.  So you're assuming that none of those teams had "shoulda-coulda" instances in their loses?  

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i see people say this about players already on the team quite often and i've even said so myself in the past, but i'm more concerned with getting the best players on the field and winning than just seeing what some unknown commodities with promise have.

 

i'm more interested with winning than i am appeasing my curiousity re: young players.

 

if he's affordable and he can make us better....go get him. if the young guys can't beat him for a spot, move along.

 

Your last point shouldn't be understated. Young players need to step up and move the old guys out the way if they want to play. If they can't, then they need to continue to hone their skills with the second team, and learn from the sidelines.

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Can't know how hard the schedule is until the season starts to play out.

 

I have seen seasons where the hardest schedule turned out to be middle of the pack.

 

yeah man...I hear ya.  But I feel pretty confident that it's going to be a brutal schedule.  The most winnable games are early - we haven't started out fast the past two seasons.  

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Cam fumbles or Nak does not brain fart.....we beat Atlanta.

 

Smitty does not fall down after we dominated Chicago all day....we beat Chicago

 

Cam does not throw the 4yd pass into the dirt instead of to a wide open Hartsock...we beat Seattle

 

Rivera does not brain fart and play prevent against TB (while up by 11 with 3 min to go)...we beat TB

 

 

This team was easily a 10 win team last season...plain and simple.

 

If we would have won 2-3 of those fluke games, we would be considered a contender this season.

 

Exactly.  I'm sure every team had a game or two where 1 play was the difference between a win or a loss.  We had 4.  On top of another record year for injuries.  This is a good team that needs to learn how to finish.  They finished games down the stretch last year.

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  They finished games down the stretch last year.

 

And until they start finishing games when they matter, then we can't just say they're a playoff team.  The talent is obviously there.  Now show us some pudding.  

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Exactly.  I'm sure every team had a game or two where 1 play was the difference between a win or a loss.  We had 4.  On top of another record year for injuries.  This is a good team that needs to learn how to finish.  They finished games down the stretch last year.

 

Not like the Atlanta, Chicago, and Seattle game.

 

Those were more than making a play for a win.  Those were absolutely unlucky fluke plays that all went against us.

 

But, my point is still valid.  This team is talented and very close to the playoffs.  They are not a talent depleted team who is lucky to win 6-7 games.

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