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#16 carolina-chuck

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:56 AM

Banned.
 

 

If you dont like him, you dont have to be disrespectful. Everyone has their own guy. 



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:00 AM

If you dont like him, you dont have to be disrespectful. Everyone has their own guy. 

 

It's a joke, chuck.  You are supposed to LOL, buddy.  Nothing disrespectful about it...

 

I was expressing my opinion of him through a joke.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:11 AM

I have liked Bazz for quite some time, and while he disappointed me with his lack of defense and play-making -- his scoring was among the best. I would be pretty happy if we drafted Shabazz, but for me it's really between Bazz, Oladipo, and Len, with Zeller as a wildcard (because he is talented and tested VERY well in the combine).



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:19 AM

I could stand to add Zeller to my list.  Right now, I'm hoping for and would be happy with Oladipo, Bennett, or Zeller.  If McLemore slips to us, I guess I'd be okay with it at #4.  I just didn't think he'd be worth it at #1.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:26 AM

This is why I think Shabazz makes perfect sense:

 

*** Rich Cho and the OKC Model ***

 

We have a PG (Kemba), SF (Kidd-Gilchrist), and an improving PF/C (Biz). We're missing SG and another Big. From all the things I've heard that the Bobcats might not offer Hendo anything, I dont think he's coming back. Shabazz' game is very similar to James Harden. Cho and MJ is going to take some serious look at him. Remember MJ's interests in Harden last season?? Adding Shabazz will give us a young and very similar back court to OKC. Go head and add a Paul Millsap or Al Jefferson and say hello to OKC 2.0. I really think that MJ/Cho would rather go young in the back court and add a veteran player inside than vise versa. If Cho is serious about his OKC model, this is the route he should take.

2013-2014 Charlotte Hornets

PG: Kemba Walker
SG: Shabazz Muhammad

SF: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

PF: Bismack Biyombo

C  : Al Jefferson

 

2011-2012 OKC Thunder

PG: Russell Westbrook

SG: James Harden

SF: Kevin Durant

PF: Serge Ibaka

C  : Kendrick Perkins



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:30 AM

Yeah man, I see your reasoning.  I just didn't see the on-court production to justify it and I was just extremely underwhelmed with his showing at UCLA...  As I am with pretty much all of the SGs projected high in this draft outside of Oladipo.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:32 AM

I have liked Bazz for quite some time, and while he disappointed me with his lack of defense and play-making -- his scoring was among the best. I would be pretty happy if we drafted Shabazz, but for me it's really between Bazz, Oladipo, and Len, with Zeller as a wildcard (because he is talented and tested VERY well in the combine).

 

That's good to hear there are others out there that are not ruling Bazz out of the question just bc of his negative media attention.

 

This is why I rather have Bazz over Oladipo. Bazz ceiling is much higher than Victor. Victor MJ like athletic, but he is already polished out. You take what you get with him right now. Bazz still have a lot of room for improvement. At best, I believe that Bazz is a 20-25 ppg SG with the potential to be an All Star player. I think Victor is going to be a 14-16 ppg SG as a role player. Something like a Tony Allen.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:45 AM

Yeah man, I see your reasoning.  I just didn't see the on-court production to justify it and I was just extremely underwhelmed with his showing at UCLA...  As I am with pretty much all of the SGs projected high in this draft outside of Oladipo.

 

Yea, dont get me wrong. I saw exactly what you and many others saw of him last season. But, I still think that he has a ton of upside to be the top player in this draft. Im not going to let one bad season, which it really wasnt get the best of me. Shabazz can be a really good player and he should improve this team. Both Kemba and MKG would benefit with having Bazz run the court with them. I think we will all see Bazz' name mentioned more as the no.4 potential pick leading up to the Draft. Especially losing out on the no.2 pick, Bazz is a player that can put some energy to the Charlotte fan base. I dont see Oladipo as anything more than a role player. His MJ like athleticism is not going to believe that he's MJ or Wade. Len is a safe pick, but it's too high at no.4.

 

Shabazz Muhammad:

17.9 PPG, 5.2 RPG, 0.1 BPG

 

Ben McLemore:

15.9 PPG, 5.2 RPG, 2.0 APG

 

Victor Oladipo:

13.6 PPG, 6.3 RPG, 2.1 APG

 

His statistic is as good as the other two SG ranked ahead of him in this draft. Imo, it's better. If the media is killing him for his performance last season, what can he be if he had a better season?? Let's face it that the kid is not a finish product. He's going to only get better.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:11 PM

Forget the bad ego. Cant blame a kid who all he have ever known in his life was the hype to be the next NBA superstar. Maybe, that's exactly what we need also. Someone who wants to be great. Bazz is the closet thing to be a NBA superstar if you forget his negative attitude last season at UCLA. His statistic is much better than McLemore or Oladipo. He's no where close to being a Tyrus Thomas locker room killer. If anything, his poor season at UCLA last season will mature him. I think the kid have finally touched ground in reality. It will only benefit him to see life differently than what he was used to with all the cameras around him. I'd take this as a blessing in disguise. David Stern had fugged Charlotte since whenever. This is a way for us to get back at Stern. Take Shabazz and show Stern the middle finger.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:22 PM

The only way I'd be fine with Shabazz is if the Hornets traded back to around the 9th or 10th spot for him and picked up extra assets. No way would I take him at 4 over Bennett or Oladipo. 



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:29 PM

I don't buy the whole "Bazz has poor work ethic". Everything that I've ever seen or heard from Bazz implies that he wants to be great. From him talking about wanting to be great, to wanting the ball in his hands, to being upset that he didn't get the last shot against Washington. Honestly a lot of people were hating on Bazz for not being happy about his teammate shooting (and making) the game winning shot against Washington, but I see it in a different light. Sure, he should have reacted a bit differently because his team just won the game. However, it shows that he has a passion for the game. He wants to be the guy. He wants the game winning shots. He wants to be a star. I am a huge Kobe fan and I've seen him upset in the rare occurrence that he didn't get the ball with the game on the line. Bazz has that same killer instinct, "I wanna be great" gene. The only difference is that Kobe wouldn't have acted like Bazz did. He would've been happy that the shot went in. I have a feeling that the UCLA team has terrible chemistry this season and they just didn't get along or like one another. I don't know, I don't want to justify his reaction with that, but it does show me that he wants to be a star.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:29 PM

My deal is that I'd rather wait until we have a stable team than to draft a headcase.

 

Most of the guys on the team are super quiet (excluding Biz).

 

I've met a few of the guys (Kemba, Adrien, Thomas) and for the mos part they are extremely mellow... 

 

Without a true leader on this team, I don't want some showoff like Bazz to come here and think he can do whatever he wants.

 

It just won't work... to be honest I don't think he has a good head on his shoulder... seriously who lies about how old they are?



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:41 PM

The only way I'd be fine with Shabazz is if the Hornets traded back to around the 9th or 10th spot for him and picked up extra assets. No way would I take him at 4 over Bennett or Oladipo. 

 

I dont think Shabazz is going to be there at 10. I really think that he's going to be taken much higher than what the media is having him going. But, of course I would love for that scenario to happen. I think finding a trading partner for someone to jump up for Oladipo could really happen. Portland is one who is serious about trading up for him, but I think there's may be 1-2 more teams that could be mentioned as well.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:45 PM

I don't buy the whole "Bazz has poor work ethic". Everything that I've ever seen or heard from Bazz implies that he wants to be great. From him talking about wanting to be great, to wanting the ball in his hands, to being upset that he didn't get the last shot against Washington. Honestly a lot of people were hating on Bazz for not being happy about his teammate shooting (and making) the game winning shot against Washington, but I see it in a different light. Sure, he should have reacted a bit differently because his team just won the game. However, it shows that he has a passion for the game. He wants to be the guy. He wants the game winning shots. He wants to be a star. I am a huge Kobe fan and I've seen him upset in the rare occurrence that he didn't get the ball with the game on the line. Bazz has that same killer instinct, "I wanna be great" gene. The only difference is that Kobe wouldn't have acted like Bazz did. He would've been happy that the shot went in. I have a feeling that the UCLA team has terrible chemistry this season and they just didn't get along or like one another. I don't know, I don't want to justify his reaction with that, but it does show me that he wants to be a star.

 

Completely agree.

We need that kind of guy on this team. He's not a locker room killer. He just have that "I want to be great" ego. Thats a big difference. No one is complaining about KOBE, why finds way to trash Bazz? I think there's more to that UCLA team team than what we know. That wasnt a good team at all. Bazz was the only scoring option and bright spot on that team.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:48 PM

My deal is that I'd rather wait until we have a stable team than to draft a headcase.

 

Most of the guys on the team are super quiet (excluding Biz).

 

I've met a few of the guys (Kemba, Adrien, Thomas) and for the mos part they are extremely mellow... 

 

Without a true leader on this team, I don't want some showoff like Bazz to come here and think he can do whatever he wants.

 

It just won't work... to be honest I don't think he has a good head on his shoulder... seriously who lies about how old they are?

 

Who told you that he was a headcase other than the media. He was never made up to be a problem until last season at UCLA. Bazz is a soft spoken, humble, and passionate person. No one is complaining about Westbrook. I think his attitude on the court is far worse. And there's plenty more.




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