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Do we get any further salary cap relief come June 1?


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#13 TANTRIC-NINJA

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 07:40 AM

I just have a feeling with Drew Rosenhaus as the agent..and CJ being a real contract the Panthers have doled out...This will end ugly for Hardy fans.

If Frank Alexander continues to build on the rookie season he flashed...Hardy will have little leverage and Drew will make Hardy feel offended by any offer less than CJs.

The unfortunate outcome: Falcons or Saints will benefit in 2014 and Hardy becomes our next Peepers(in terms of heatbreak-anger) But it will be within division.

Not what I would want..but with real extentions that will command huge money(Cam) this will cause some tough losses with young guys unless the Belk line really blows up for Cam...he gives a hometown discount?( all signs point to not likley)

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:18 AM

JA was a June 1st cut taking his 4.2M dead money with 1/3 counting toward this year (1.4M) and 2/3 counting towards next years cap (2.8M). Cutting him will save 200k out right plus the 2.8M that is deferred to next year... so come June 1st JA is freeing up $3M.

 

Also, Star and KK are the only contracts that count against the cap right now (total of 2.58M off that ~8.4M) because you only count the top 51 contracts against your cap. Kug, Klein and Barner are below that 51 mark.



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Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:22 AM

hardy's agent is drew rosenhaus. it's fair to say that rosenhaus is looking to get paid and so are his clients. you wouldn't hire rosenhaus unless you were looking for the payout.

hurney never had any problems with rosenhaus, but that was because he negotiation tactics revolved around his inability to say no.getts probably won't be so loose. I'm hoping that hardy is honest when he talks about how unimportant the money is, but you hire agents to take care of all that stuff for you so you don't have to worry about it. you hire rosenhaus when you want an annoying rabid pitbull to get your money for you. if rosenhaus sees a chance to get paid a poo ton of money, he's going to go after it....and that's what he has in hardy.


Greg Olsen is probably the only recent Rosenhaus client here that hasn't been overpaid.

Beason - check
Big Money - check
Mare - check

lol....looks like he also represented Dwayne Jarrett

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:54 AM

It's funny how the people that argue we are fine at WR because Lafell is "a good #2" never bring up the fact that he's in a contract year too. It's going to be interesting to see how much he's paid.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 09:00 AM

It's funny how the people that argue we are fine at WR because Lafell is "a good #2" never bring up the fact that he's in a contract year too. It's going to be interesting to see how much he's paid.

Person keeps saying he thinks they won't re-sign LaFell, really not sure why. 



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Posted 28 May 2013 - 09:34 AM

Person keeps saying he thinks they won't re-sign LaFell, really not sure why.


That makes our WR position that much more of a joke. So the only WR under contract will be 35 years old wow.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 09:35 AM

Incorrect sir. Rookies have been signed. So the 8.46 dropped down, to roughly, 3.2 million. Add June 1st you'd be back to 7-8 million. It's a rough estimation.

 

According to this https://www.nflplaye...px?report=top51

  we are almost 7 million under the cap now, after signing the rookies.  After Anderson's June 1st cap hit comes off we should be over $10 million under the cap for 2013.



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Posted 28 May 2013 - 09:44 AM

^^^ on top of that, when we cut down to 53 if we haven't added any FA's we'll be around $12M to roll over to next year (we have ~$9M in dead cap to chew on in 2014) not to mention Hardy, LaFell and Cam contracts to consider



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Posted 28 May 2013 - 09:47 AM

^^^ on top of that, when we cut down to 53 if we haven't added any FA's we'll be around $12M to roll over to next year (we have ~$9M in dead cap to chew on in 2014) not to mention Hardy, LaFell and Cam contracts to consider


A lot of big numbers guys will be addressed though next year....

Several of the Hurney "core" guys likely are gone then.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 10:04 AM

Definitely. Going to be a lot of turnover the next 2 years



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 09:06 AM

Gross took a pay cut.  I do not know the circumstances, but how would he feel if we sat on $10 million?



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 09:24 AM

Gross took a pay cut. I do not know the circumstances, but how would he feel if we sat on $10 million?


I would think you keep some as emergency money. For example, if Smith, Kalil, etc break their leg in camp.

Gross IMO is retiring. He knew he wasn't seeing that money.