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#76 mav1234

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 12:03 AM

Remember at the end of the Pacers series when Lebron said he needed to back to his Cleveland days? Well, it appears that he has. He's my favorite player but this is embarrassing.

 

honestly blaming this loss on Lebron is a bit tough.

 

The thing is, though, that the way Lebron plays, it can be hard for other players to get into a serious rhythm.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 12:03 AM

If Heat don't win the next one they are toast; I expect they will and whoever wins game 5 will ultimately win the series. Heat are in bad shape right now though. 

 

I'm torn, because although I don't particularly like or dislike Lebron; I just want to see greatness. Maybe I should just be happy with Tim Duncan's illustrious career. 

 

Duncan is in the twilight of his career.  I want him to win, because Lebron will have a decade to do this.  This may be Duncan's last chance, and he is one of the underappreciated greats.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 12:54 AM

honestly blaming this loss on Lebron is a bit tough.

The thing is, though, that the way Lebron plays, it can be hard for other players to get into a serious rhythm.


He was 7/21 from the field and didn't get to the free throw line once. Between LeBron and Bosh, they were 11/31...

Both of those guys have to play better.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 07:51 AM

I think the Heat win on pure talent, and where the Spurs have talent for sure, they win with fundamentals and amazing team play.  Tonight the Heat's talent was not playing like they should, and the "team" of the Spurs took it and dominated.   The Spurs just have an amazing all around team and bench.   Their ball movement was killer, and the Heat couldn't keep up.  They just nickel and dime you to death.  



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:28 AM

Duncan is in the twilight of his career.  I want him to win, because Lebron will have a decade to do this.  This may be Duncan's last chance, and he is one of the underappreciated greats.

 

 

 

I agree; don't know if you like Bill Simmons but yesterday he pumped out a massive article chronicling Duncan's career

 

link to part 1

http://www.grantland...m-duncan-part-1



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:50 AM

honestly blaming this loss on Lebron is a bit tough.

 

The thing is, though, that the way Lebron plays, it can be hard for other players to get into a serious rhythm.

 

I fully agree with you there. 

 

The team has to be built a VERY strict way to be very successful. He needs elite 3pt shooters and defenders all around him. That's why I never understood the whole "LeBron has no help" in Cleveland thing. Sure, he didn't have multiple all-stars, but he had exactly what he needed to win. He takes players like D-Wade and Bosh down a little bit, because they need the ball to be successful, but LeBron is the best player in the game so obviously he needs to ball at a very high rate (30% or more USG). LeBron basically turns everyone into a spot up shooter and that's how he makes his teammates better. Although, I will say that when D-Wade was healthy he was able to play off of LBJ fairly well since he is so good at moving without the ball these days. 



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:34 PM

honestly blaming this loss on Lebron is a bit tough.

The thing is, though, that the way Lebron plays, it can be hard for other players to get into a serious rhythm.

But that is the very reason people blame Lebron when his team doesn't win. When you're the best and most skilled/talented player in the league yet, you disappear in some of the biggest moments, you're going to take blame. His game is such that others can't really get a rhythm, as you said, and because of that he has to be the best player on the court and put the team on his back when necessary, yet he often shrinks in those moments. Lebron is my favorite player in the league, but that is what is so frustrating about him.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 10:37 PM

The big 3 for Miami all showed up tonight for once. Bosh with a double double and wade putting up 30+ with 6 steals, to go with 33 and 11 for LeBron (on 15-25 shooting). Who knows what will happen in game 5.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 10:45 PM

Great game by LBJ, DWade, and Bosh! Great to see them step up...

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 10:53 PM

Oh now suddenly Lebron has talent around him again? Lmao. I love this place.

Great game, Spurs wasted too many opportunities and got sloppy with the basketball.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 11:19 PM

Oh now suddenly Lebron has talent around him again? Lmao. I love this place.

Great game, Spurs wasted too many opportunities and got sloppy with the basketball.

So Wade didn't have a good game? Lol, the talent has been there, they just haven't seemed to play well together in clutch moments.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 11:22 PM

So Wade didn't have a good game? Lol, the talent has been there, they just haven't seemed to play well together in clutch moments.


I didn't say that. I'm only stating what anyone without homer glasses on can clearly see.

The many "long time" Heat fans here like to complain Lebron has no help after a loss. Win? "Oh hey the big 3!"

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 11:30 PM

I didn't say that. I'm only stating what anyone without homer glasses on can clearly see.

The many "long time" Heat fans here like to complain Lebron has no help after a loss. Win? "Oh hey the big 3!"

Oh, gotcha. I don't fall into either the Heat fan or apologists categories, so I'm cool with that, lol. As a fan of players outside of Charlotte, Lebron is my favorite and Wade has been one of my favorites since Marquette, so I like to see them play well together. But, I'll be the first to say when they aren't playing well too.

This is truly a crazy series though... After SA won the opening game and then they took turns blowing each other out, it's hard to tell whom, if either of them does, have an advantage at this point.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 11:41 PM

Oh, gotcha. I don't fall into either the Heat fan or apologists categories, so I'm cool with that, lol. As a fan of players outside of Charlotte, Lebron is my favorite and Wade has been one of my favorites since Marquette, so I like to see them play well together. But, I'll be the first to say when they aren't playing well too.

This is truly a crazy series though... After SA won the opening game and then they took turns blowing each other out, it's hard to tell whom, if either of them does, have an advantage at this point.


Well I'm not a Heat fan, as can be observed. I give credit where it is due though, this one can go either way now that it's tied up. Crazy indeed. The NBA should definitely be getting their moneys worth and more from this finals.

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 05:55 AM

Oh now suddenly Lebron has talent around him again? Lmao. I love this place.

Great game, Spurs wasted too many opportunities and got sloppy with the basketball.

 

Lol, aaand it's comments like this and the one from the other night when the Heat lost game 3 that makes it that much more enjoyable to see them win.  I might be wrong, but I haven't seen anyone here say he didn't have any talent around him (it'd take an idiot to suggest that)... and seeing as I've been one of the more vocal ones in these Miami threads probably the worst you could find me saying is that Bosh and Wade (and maybe a few role players such as Battier) needed to step up, LeBron was carrying that team there for a stretch.  Despite the talent on the team it really was the Miami Cavaliers there for a bit.

 

I'm not even a Heat fan--I damn sure respect them, and I admire LeBron's game--but there's a point where it becomes ridiculous.  We get it, you people don't like the guy... but regardless, he's one of the greatest talents the game has ever seen, in the prime of his career, playing in the Finals right now, and looking to repeat.




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