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Value of a Human Life in TX: Apparently Less Than $150.00

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Went to get more context for this, and it sounds even more ridiculous now, assuming this is true (from Vanity Fair here)

In my home state of Texas, a man named Ezekiel Gilbert decided on Christmas Eve in 2009 that he was feeling randy. He checked Craigslist, found a listing for an escort, and—believing the service included sex—arranged for a meeting. The escort, 23-year-old Lenora Ivie Frago, showed up, and Gilbert paid her $150 for half an hour of time. Then, once the paid-for time had passed, Frago got up to leave. Gilbert was outraged: he had paid money! He thought the price included for-hire sex! He wanted his illegal sex!

 

Frago went outside where her driver, Christopher Perkins, was waiting. Gilbert came out and confronted Perkins, who told the enraged man that he had hired Frago for 30 minutes of her time, not sex, and that was what he had received. Perkins drove away, when suddenly Frago screamed, “He’s got a gun!”

 

Gilbert fired at the car four times. A bullet struck Frago at the base of the skull, paralyzing her. Months later, she died as the result of the shooting. Gilbert was charged with murder. He admitted that the basic facts I just recounted were true.

 

On Thursday, Gilbert was acquitted. The jury agreed with his argument that he was justified in shooting and killing Frago because she had stolen his property—as in, the $150 taken without providing him the sex he wanted. Never mind that Perkins—who was labeled as Frago’s pimp by the defense—testified in court that his escorts never promise sex. “If I found out you were having sex, you were fired. Period. End of discussion,” he said.

 

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I don't think there is any reasoning whatsoever to not think this guy is a murderer.  I completely understand the legal argument his defense was making, I just think it's a bunch of bullshit because I don't think this man had any reason to believe he was legally obligated to have received sex in exchange for his money.

Does the story say anything about him being charged with soliciting a prostitute?

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Does the story say anything about him being charged with soliciting a prostitute?

 

They never agreed to have sex, there likely was no way to prove he was soliciting sex since he just assumed he was getting sex, do you know of him being charged with that?

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How is shooting someone over lost property not stone age vigalantism anyway?

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Nope, was asking. Seems like he admitted to such though.

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How is shooting someone over lost property not stone age vigalantism anyway?

As a kid, I would assume you did not play well with others.

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yeah fug that, sorry, he paid for 30 minutes of time and he got it.

 

the most disgusting part of this is that Texas jury just basically said that if you give a woman money and she doesn't provide what you expect you have a reason to fuging shoot her if she doesn't give it back to you.

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Nope, was asking. Seems like he admitted to such though.

 

True, and hopefully they get him for something because this is fuging disgusting.

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stirs, I do appreciate that you are trying to expand the discussion beyond what is really cut-and-dry "what the fug just happened in Texas", but the reality is that this situation is so fuging retarded it is hard for me to objectively separate where you are trying to go from what this thread was started about.

 

I understand protecting yourself, your family, and your home from an intruder, but I can never understand protecting your "property" as was done in this particular instance, that's all.

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As a kid, I would assume you did not play well with others.

Because I didn't hunt down and execute the kid that took my bike?

What I want to know is living in Texas how far can I take this? TWC just overcharged me $75 and I want to know how far up the chain of command I can off someone.

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TWC-The Weather Channel?

I would say get Roker, he kinda gets on my nerves

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this discussion reminds of the rape tunnel

 

http://gawker.com/5369615/enter-the-rape-tunnel-for-art

 

I've constructed a 22 ft tunnel out of plywood that leads into the project room. There is no way in or out of the project room except for this tunnel. As you travel through the tunnel, it gets smaller and smaller, making it so that you have to crawl and put yourself in a submissive position in order to reach the tunnel's destination. At the end of the tunnel the subject will find me waiting in the project room and I'll try to the best of my ability to overpower and rape the person who crawls through.

 

fyi madhatter just bc you clearly label your tunnel "rape tunnel" and verbally threaten to rape anyone who enters doesn't mean you can then rape anyone who enters. rape is still reprehensible, as is murder. that is unless you're murdering an escort and you're a white dude in texas; then it's just-world fallacy all the way down

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