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#16 mbarbour21

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 08:03 AM

You think we are bad? Colts fans right now are calling 11 wins on an article about Indy takin a step back.

We are somewhat......reasonable with our optimism. Haha! We really are. We aren't screaming playoffs, we understand the stiff competition.

#17 Delhommey

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 08:06 AM

Situation dire: Secondary, ST (until they finally prove otherwise)

Situation not good at all: Right side of O line, kicking team, WR's not named Smith

DT is still a concern till the rookies make a difference, which doesn't usually happen.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 08:42 AM

We'll see..  Like the majority of things I post about.  They are accurate.  

 

Too many of you guys look at individuals instead of the whole team. 

 

For instance...  Our receivers suck yet we had nearly 4000 yds passing.  Our numbers were evenly distributed as any team in the league as far as WR yards compared to total QB yardage.

 

Secondary Sucks yet we finished top 10 defensively and above average 13th out of 32 against the pass.

 

Offensive line sucks... 12 overall in Offense and 9th in the league in Rushing and probably would have been much higher had we started out the season with a NFL Offense instead of a gimmick read option Bull poo that Chudz had us running.

 

And any of you that  think the we didn't make some serious improvements on the Defensive line just are plain ignorant. 

 

Whether Hangartner played Center or Guard he still had an inexperience guard/center next to him the he was having to compensate for.  But he sucked.  That is why we retained him cause he sucked so bad.  Right?

 

Call them Panther glasses all you want but my opinion will more spot on then the negative B.S that you bandwagon bashers.

 

That's right. Bandwagon bashers.  Half of you have no opinion only jump on the bandwagon of a long time poster..  oooohhh maybe they'll throw you some PIE if you agree with... WTF ever.  

 

I don't really give a crap whether you like what I had to say or not...    Like I said... When all is said and done...  Barring major injury my opinion will hit closer to the mark then those that disagree.

 

 



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 08:44 AM

This post oozes confidence.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 08:48 AM

I appreciate the optimism, I really do. It's hard not to be optimistic when you evaluate our potential. One major factor you discussed is coaching. I'm not convinced Rivera can make game day decisions and Shula has a lot to prove plus we have a handful of unproven new position coaches as well. Our schedule is the hardest in the league based on 2012 win percentage. We are facing some really well coached teams. We have to stay healthy and we have to have great game day coaching. I think our ceiling is 9 wins in 2013 but still think we are staring at 6 to 8 wins.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:13 AM

I've been fooled too many times by the potential of our team.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:23 AM

I appreciate the optimism, I really do. It's hard not to be optimistic when you evaluate our potential. One major factor you overlooked though is coaching. I'm not convinced Rivera can make game day decisions and Shula has a lot to prove. We have a handful of new position coaches as well. Our schedule is the hardest in the league based on 2012 win percentage. We are facing some really well coached teams. We have to stay healthy and we have to have great game day coaching. I think our ceiling is 9 wins in 2013 but still think we are staring at 6 to 8 wins.

 

 

 

I give Rivera benefit of the doubt.....Since he started coaching  panthers, we have improved every year it may not be significant in W-L  but in other areas we have improved drastically ......We are in position to have great year... the DL has been addressed, return of Beason, and competition in secondary.  In the offense we bring back key injured players addressed the O-line, brought in WR for competition, going back to more of traditional offense that we where more successful in & plays to the strength of the team. His game mangagement was not the greatest last season but that was a learning experience for both the coaches and the players ,  i'm pretty sure they want make the same mistake twice knowings whats at stake for them.

 

Far as schedule strength I love it  (coming from the SEC)........ every game is a grind and the competition brings the best out of you. You gotta beat the best to be the best.

 

 

You don't finish with a top 10 defense, top 12 offense (where the  QB had slump and no real running game) without some good coaching.

 

 

As a fan of the team i rather set the goals high than low. 

 

 

10-6 (minimum)



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:23 AM

I know it's a cliche saying but I stopped after the line about the OL being as good as any in the league. I don't know how that could be true.

Fans are so manic when it comes to the outlook of the team. The swings in mood are huge.

Read the SI review on us for this season.....they also stated that when healthy we have one of the best OL's in the league.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:51 AM

Our schedule is the hardest in the league based on 2012 win percentage. We are facing some really well coached teams. 

Don't mention strength of schedule to Dave.....he's likely to explode.  



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:58 AM

I give Rivera benefit of the doubt.....Since he started coaching panthers, we have improved every year it may not be significant in W-L but in other areas we have improved drastically ......We are in position to have great year... the DL has been addressed, return of Beason, and competition in secondary. In the offense we bring back key injured players addressed the O-line, brought in WR for competition, going back to more of traditional offense that we where more successful in & plays to the strength of the team. His game mangagement was not the greatest last season but that was a learning experience for both the coaches and the players , i'm pretty sure they want make the same mistake twice knowings whats at stake for them.

Far as schedule strength I love it (coming from the SEC)........ every game is a grind and the competition brings the best out of you. You gotta beat the best to be the best.


You don't finish with a top 10 defense, top 12 offense (where the QB had slump and no real running game) without some good coaching.


As a fan of the team i rather set the goals high than low.


10-6 (minimum)


We also simplified the play calling, which should automatically bring better game management.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:07 AM

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:07 AM

I'll be honest and say I stopped reading when you tried to pass of Hangartner as even a viable player.

For as atrocious as he was last season, he was worse the year before. This team can seriously claim it's trying to make a run this year and leave him as the starter.

The secondary is in shambles and the WR corp is paper thin. We still have a little bit of work to do this offseason if we wanna make a run.

All the wishing and hoping and homerness in the world isn't going to fix that drayton florence is our top corner on the depth chart.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:08 AM

We'll see..  Like the majority of things I post about.  They are accurate.  

 

 

I don't really give a crap whether you like what I had to say or not...    Like I said... When all is said and done...  Barring major injury my opinion will hit closer to the mark then those that disagree.

 

Hard to argue with this guy when you look at last year's prediction....

 

 

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 12:54 PM

Incredible. I gotta say the Cap Cam and Incredible Beason are my 2 favorites.

Cool write up. I did a take on the Panthers season and came away 13-3 too.

This year all those close losses are going to be close wins.

Go Panthers


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:16 AM

I agree we can jump the gun on making predictions. But last year we really could hav went 13-3, at least 12-4. 7 of 9 games we lost by just 6.....or less. Plus we started off diff (with the read option) than we did the year before. It wasnt totally inconceivable that we could win 12 games last year. This year is less likely. However, I'm hoping for 10-6 or better. But thinking we would be lucky to get 10 wins. But it IS possible.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:29 AM

I agree we can jump the gun on making predictions. But last year we really could hav went 13-3, at least 12-4. 7 of 9 games we lost by just 6.....or less. Plus we started off diff (with the read option) than we did the year before. It wasnt totally inconceivable that we could win 12 games last year. This year is less likely. However, I'm hoping for 10-6 or better. But thinking we would be lucky to get 10 wins. But it IS possible.


We could have won them but we didn't. Stupid coaching decisions and a lack of 2nd half adjustments are much to blame IMO. Every team in the NFL can point to a loss and say we could have won if we did such and such. The well coached teams win those games, the out-coached teams lose those games.


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