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#31 MadHatter

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 12:54 PM

If we really wanted to run the ball then why have we not signed a rg that can run block? It makes all the difference in the world when you have a line that can run block

 

We drafted one.....Kug is a road grader.



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 12:57 PM

two of those teams weren't in the top 10 in rushing btw (nor ranked as high as we were)

 

one of them was bottom five

 

since it's pretty obvious you didn't research, I'll let you go on NFL's stats page to find out which one it was yourself

 

 

A lot of our rushing yards have come from Cam in the last 2 years and a QB running does not open up the passing game.

 

If those 3 QBs had close to the yardage that Cam had, they would be ranked just fine in rushing.

 

RBs running open up the passing game, not simply saying "rushing".



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 01:22 PM

We drafted one.....Kug is a road grader.

 

 

I know but he is a rookie 4th round pick from Podunk University and is riding a bike during OTAs. I will believe it when I see it 



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 01:26 PM

A lot of our rushing yards have come from Cam in the last 2 years and a QB running does not open up the passing game.

If those 3 QBs had close to the yardage that Cam had, they would be ranked just fine in rushing.

RBs running open up the passing game, not simply saying "rushing".


this is decades old simple minded fan football logic. yea some concepts still work from time to time like play action, but every superbowl winning team in like the past five years had outstanding oline play so they ended up both passing and running well, and if their oline wasn't good, their QB was playing insanely well. the steelers, saints, packers, giants, and ravens all ascribe to one of those models. they didn't win championships with a run first offense. WE'RE NOT GOING TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP WITH A RUN FIRST OFFENSE.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:21 AM

Cam has been the leading rusher since being drafted by us, and you're telling me that's a good thing?


He will go down as the greatest runner from the QB spot in NFL history...it isn't as bad of a thing as some paint it.

Cam is a great runner

So then when you split RB rushes between several RB it then keeps all there individual stats down

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:43 AM

He will go down as the greatest runner from the QB spot in NFL history...it isn't as bad of a thing as some paint it.

Cam is a great runner

So then when you split RB rushes between several RB it then keeps all there individual stats down


It is going to be gun watching you implode this season when Cam is running a fraction of the amount that he has.

We are going to more if a power running game with a play action passing game. It is obvious to everyone who is paying attention

The coaches are taking about it and the players are talking about it.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:56 AM

It is going to be gun watching you implode this season when Cam is running a fraction of the amount that he has.

We are going to more if a power running game with a play action passing game. It is obvious to everyone who is paying attention

The coaches are taking about it and the players are talking about it.

Anyone that wants Cam running a fraction of what he has should get there head checked. You can argue against situational running....but a fraction of running in general is absurd.

Cam is a natural runner. He would have 500+ yards and near double digit TDs in virtually any O that gave him a little freedom.

Anyone paying attention....should realize double trouble are good. Cam potentially has historical greatnessZ

Just like last year when people said he wouldn't run...Cam will run for one simple reason....he is a significantly better rushing threat than anyone on our roster.

Also, like Jordan Gross will point out to guys like YOU...Cam is a better player when he runs

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 10:02 AM

I don't think anyone has a problem when Cam scrambles, or has a few well designed runs in space. 

 

However, too much of the short yardage, Read Option or goal line running is not good for Cam in the long run. 

 

Cam needs to be a QB (which I think he will be this year--as his Rookie Season, and second half of 2012), looking to throw, who runs when required.  So whether this means Cam runs for 500 yards, or 700; I don't care as long as he follows this formula. 

 

Obviously, the Panthers are going to attempt to pry 200-400 more rush yards out of their RB's in 2013. However, even if they don't/can't: Cam will probably throw for those yards anyway. Play Action (as it was in Cam's Rookie season) and short, intermediate passing routes, will be very helpful to Cam and the Panthers in 2013. This appears to be a key focus for them going into the upcoming season. 

 

Based off what we hear from the Panthers: It's not so much the Panthers are going to run more per se in 2013. They just won't be doing it out of the Read Option as much, and will attempt to reduce much of Cam's short yardage and goal line runs (along with the aforementioned short, intermediate, and play action passing). Just look at how Tolbert was used effectively toward the end of the season in short yardage/goal line situations?



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Posted 15 June 2013 - 10:14 AM

Cam will still have over 500 yards rushing though. Handful of touchdowns. Bodes well for the Panthers if Cam can grab 50 yards in a game. And the superman dives at the 1 are money. Can't really stop those.



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Posted 15 June 2013 - 01:34 PM

I don't think anyone has a problem when Cam scrambles, or has a few well designed runs in space.

However, too much of the short yardage, Read Option or goal line running is not good for Cam in the long run.

Cam needs to be a QB (which I think he will be this year--as his Rookie Season, and second half of 2012), looking to throw, who runs when required. So whether this means Cam runs for 500 yards, or 700; I don't care as long as he follows this formula.

Obviously, the Panthers are going to attempt to pry 200-400 more rush yards out of their RB's in 2013. However, even if they don't/can't: Cam will probably throw for those yards anyway. Play Action (as it was in Cam's Rookie season) and short, intermediate passing routes, will be very helpful to Cam and the Panthers in 2013. This appears to be a key focus for them going into the upcoming season.

Based off what we hear from the Panthers: It's not so much the Panthers are going to run more per se in 2013. They just won't be doing it out of the Read Option as much, and will attempt to reduce much of Cam's short yardage and goal line runs (along with the aforementioned short, intermediate, and play action passing). Just look at how Tolbert was used effectively toward the end of the season in short yardage/goal line situations?


Cam had always looked to throw....

If argue he sits too long looking way more often than he takes off

I think we will run the read option just as often as we always have....excluding only the first 4-5 games of 2012

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 01:39 PM

Cam had always looked to throw....

If argue he sits too long looking way more often than he takes off

I think we will run the read option just as often as we always have....excluding only the first 4-5 games of 2012

 

The first 4-5 games were the problem. Lol. 

 

That's where the 'De-emphasis' of it comes from. Lol. 

 

No one said they were going to get rid of the Read Option altogether. Of course not. 



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Posted 15 June 2013 - 02:05 PM

The first 4-5 games were the problem. Lol.

That's where the 'De-emphasis' of it comes from. Lol.

No one said they were going to get rid of the Read Option altogether. Of course not.


But is it a de-emphasis if we run it this year just like we did in 28 of 32 games with Cam?

I just think too much focus was on 4 games. Chud went full retard. Read option works and that was proven in just about every game and all the other teams that ran it just like we did on those 28 of 32 games.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 02:46 PM

The read option will be used. RR said it. but it will be used sparingly, and not as a staple.

spreading the ball to the RB's (3-4 or them to be exact) and still having the threat of Cam running... besides play action and screens with tolbert.. and well let's not forget that fact that Cam can pass too... I like the idea of more power running.

 

but maybe I'm just crazy. LOL



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Posted 15 June 2013 - 03:47 PM

i was also surprised at how good tolbert turned out to be catching the ball out of the backfield.  he averaged right at 9.9 yards/reception last season.

 

Loves me some tolbert.



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Posted 15 June 2013 - 04:38 PM

The read option will be used. RR said it. but it will be used sparingly, and not as a staple.

spreading the ball to the RB's (3-4 or them to be exact) and still having the threat of Cam running... besides play action and screens with tolbert.. and well let's not forget that fact that Cam can pass too... I like the idea of more power running.

but maybe I'm just crazy. LOL




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