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#106 Matthias

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:08 PM

Andrew Luck is a prodigy.  The most mature rookie the NFL has seen in a while.  I have no problem with his ranking.  Everyone complaining about Luck being ranked higher than Cam, I was surprised to see Cam ranked at all to tell you the truth.  Cam still needs to harness all his skills.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:22 PM

Andrew Luck is a prodigy.  The most mature rookie the NFL has seen in a while.  I have no problem with his ranking.  Everyone complaining about Luck being ranked higher than Cam, I was surprised to see Cam ranked at all to tell you the truth.  Cam still needs to harness all his skills.

 

Umm. No. Incorrect. This is a load of horseshiit masquerading as intelligent talk.

 

Luck played like hot  festering garbage for long stretches of the year. His post-snap progression reading is miles behind Cam, and his pre-snap reads weren't particularly great either. The comparisons between Luck and Peyton as a rookie are so unwarranted that I literally wonder if people actually have a f*cking clue what sport they are watching.
 



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:23 PM

Ding...ding...ding....we have a winner.

its funny that of the 10 teams that you listed as being so sorry, the panthers lost to the worst of the bunch, the chiefs. if you couldnt beat the chiefs what makes you think you could beat the rest. i addressed you further a few posts down. u might have been a little premature with your little ding ding ding



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:39 PM

Umm. No. Incorrect. This is a load of horseshiit masquerading as intelligent talk.

 

Luck played like hot  festering garbage for long stretches of the year. His post-snap progression reading is miles behind Cam, and his pre-snap reads weren't particularly great either. The comparisons between Luck and Peyton as a rookie are so unwarranted that I literally wonder if people actually have a f*cking clue what sport they are watching.
 

 

Luck stepped up and led his team to 11 wins.  Some of them coming from behind.  He's also got all around leadership skills to go along with his play.  There was one time this season, a jaguar's player must have pushed Luck or got a cheap shot on him because Luck's teammates were about to get in that player's face.  However, Luck stopped his teammates, and kept them focused on the game.  I never saw such a thing before.  He's only going to get better with experience.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:40 PM

its funny that of the 10 teams that you listed as being so sorry, the panthers lost to the worst of the bunch, the chiefs. if you couldnt beat the chiefs what makes you think you could beat the rest. i addressed you further a few posts down. u might have been a little premature with your little ding ding ding

 

Are you talking about the same game where Cam thre 3 TDs and had zero turnovers, and a 121 passer rating? And our defense allowed Brady effing Quinn to have a 132+ passer rating? That one? Hmm, I wonder who's to blame for that loss, geez, let me think, it's a real humdinger, this is.

 

Sometimes I wonder how people possess the brainpower to breathe. . .



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:45 PM

Luck stepped up and led his team to 11 wins.  Some of them coming from behind.  He's also got all around leadership skills to go along with his play.  There was one time this season, a jaguar's player must have pushed Luck or got a cheap shot on him because Luck's teammates were about to get in that player's face.  However, Luck stopped his teammates, and kept them focused on the game.  I never saw such a thing before.  He's only going to get better with experience.

 

You know why you never saw such a thing before? Because you no idea what football is, and are confusing your Madden escpadaes with real life. You want to know how hard Luck sucked ass this year? Take a look:

 

http://fieryprophet.com/qba/

 

 

Notice who's the 30th ranked QB? Your dumbass wonderboy, that's who. Oh, and check out his game log:

 

http://www.fieryprop...urrent&type=all

 

Notice the FIVE games colored in purple? Those are games where his stupid ass played like dogsh*t and the TEAM still won.

 

Let me be brutally frank: you don't have a goddamn clue what you're talking about, and you really should shut your mouth about Luck before you expose your ignorance any further.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:50 PM

Andrew Luck is a prodigy.  The most mature rookie the NFL has seen in a while.  I have no problem with his ranking.  Everyone complaining about Luck being ranked higher than Cam, I was surprised to see Cam ranked at all to tell you the truth.  Cam still needs to harness all his skills.

 

Prodigy? Wow! I'm lost. Prodigy! Football can be so ambiguous sometimes.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:58 PM

You know why you never saw such a thing before? Because you no idea what football is, and are confusing your Madden escpadaes with real life. You want to know how hard Luck sucked ass this year? Take a look:

 

http://fieryprophet.com/qba/

 

 

Notice who's the 30th ranked QB? Your dumbass wonderboy, that's who. Oh, and check out his game log:

 

http://www.fieryprop...urrent&type=all

 

Notice the FIVE games colored in purple? Those are games where his stupid ass played like dogsh*t and the TEAM still won.

 

Let me be brutally frank: you don't have a goddamn clue what you're talking about, and you really should shut your mouth about Luck before you expose your ignorance any further.

 

 

I don't care too much concerning QBA.  There was stretches where Cam didn't play well either, does that mean he sucks?  The fact is Luck led his team, and they won.  You think the Colts make the playoffs without Luck? (Assuming they didn't have Peyton either)  I don't.  Oh, and don't mention Madden concerning me.  I'm a 2k fan.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 08:04 PM

first off, u overrate the nfc east and the nfc south. although year in and year out the east is one of the toughest div. in the league, we are talking about last year. the giants had an off year, the eagles were terrible, and we all know what the cowboys are. the nfc south had two very beatable teams in the saints and bucs. also, the colts beat 3 playoff teams, the panthers beat 2. the colts and panthers had 1 common opponent, the chiefs. the colts beat the chiefs in kc, the panthers lost. also, you completely discredit the dolphins and lions. when the colts beat miami, the dolphins were 5-2, and playing really tough, and going into detroit and winning is no walk in the park. you want to pad the panthers schedule and completely discredit the colts. you must remember, the colts won 11, the panthers won 7. as i said in my original post, it aint college, there are no easy outs. remember, a win is a win, and like ringo said, it dont come easy. to discredit what the colts did because you think the panthers played a tougher schedule is fools play.


The reason the NFC East and NFC South had "down" years is because they played each other.

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 08:06 PM

I don't care too much concerning QBA.  There was stretches where Cam didn't play well either, does that mean he sucks?  The fact is Luck led his team, and they won.  You think the Colts make the playoffs without Luck? (Assuming they didn't have Peyton either)  I don't.  Oh, and don't mention Madden concerning me.  I'm a 2k fan.

 

Who gives a flying f*ck if they make the playoffs only to get their asses handed to them? One thing I can at least say about Cam is that we will be a dangerous team to face when we finally reach the playoffs and not one team in the league would want to face Cam vs. Luck. They would take Luck ten times out of ten happily, and want to keep Cam a billion miles away from their defense.

 

And "leading" a team is absolute BS. People called Ray Lewis the "heart" of the Ravens, and yet Flacco said he barely even paid attention to Ray when he would go on his rants. It's a made up myth for people that want to ascribe things they can't comprehend to mystical acheivements of "will" when the fact is, football is a complex sport where the outcome can be determined by chance just as much by any other factor.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 08:14 PM

Who gives a flying f*ck if they make the playoffs only to get their asses handed to them? One thing I can at least say about Cam is that we will be a dangerous team to face when we finally reach the playoffs and not one team in the league would want to face Cam vs. Luck. They would take Luck ten times out of ten happily, and want to keep Cam a billion miles away from their defense.

 

And "leading" a team is absolute BS. People called Ray Lewis the "heart" of the Ravens, and yet Flacco said he barely even paid attention to Ray when he would go on his rants. It's a made up myth for people that want to ascribe things they can't comprehend to mystical acheivements of "will" when the fact is, football is a complex sport where the outcome can be determined by chance just as much by any other factor.

 

 

Cam definitely has the talent, but to be honest, I still don't know if he will live up to that kind of hype.  I know if Luck was our QB this year, we would have been in the playoffs.  I blame a good 90% of our struggles this year on coaching to be sure, but I always said that Cam should have stood up against the constant bad playcalling Chud was doing.  None of that stuff would have happened if Luck was our QB.  They would have pretty much handed the reigns of the offense over to Luck, while I sensed the coaches were still babying Cam in a way.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 08:20 PM

sombody likes espn and nfl network wayyyyyy too much



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 08:23 PM

Cam definitely has the talent, but to be honest, I still don't know if he will live up to that kind of hype.  I know if Luck was our QB this year, we would have been in the playoffs.  I blame a good 90% of our struggles this year on coaching to be sure, but I always said that Cam should have stood up against the constant bad playcalling Chud was doing.  None of that stuff would have happened if Luck was our QB.  They would have pretty much handed the reigns of the offense over to Luck, while I sensed the coaches were still babying Cam in a way.

 

What you're literally saying is that if we had Luck as our Qb our coaching staff wouldn't have been tempted to overuse the read option and we would have won more games. . .and that's somehow a plus for Luck and a diss on Cam?

 

Luck was not very good this year. This is an irrefutable, undebatable, incontestable, impervious fact of nature.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 08:30 PM

Are you talking about the same game where Cam thre 3 TDs and had zero turnovers, and a 121 passer rating? And our defense allowed Brady effing Quinn to have a 132+ passer rating? That one? Hmm, I wonder who's to blame for that loss, geez, let me think, it's a real humdinger, this is.

 

Sometimes I wonder how people possess the brainpower to breathe. . .

 

what is wrong with this fanbase

 

what if you were a fan of another team and you were watching them play the 2010 panthers.  your quarterback was the leading rusher and had a near perfect game but jimmy clausen was apparently possessed by joe montana and tore your defense to pieces en route to a win.

 

in what universe would it make any sense to blame your quarterback?



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 08:34 PM

Andrew Luck is a prodigy. The most mature rookie the NFL has seen in a while. I have no problem with his ranking. Everyone complaining about Luck being ranked higher than Cam, I was surprised to see Cam ranked at all to tell you the truth. Cam still needs to harness all his skills.


Andrew Luck was the third best QB in his own draft class


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