CarolinaPanthers8789 4,525 Report post Posted June 14, 2013 Naturally Jackson wanted Brian Shaw to take over for him after he left the Lakers in 2011 but the team went with Mike Brown, and then, after a brief flirtation with Jackson, chose Mike D'Antoni. "I sat with [Lakers General Manager] Mitch Kupchak a week ago and even he couldn't find out for me," said Jackson of Shaw. "It had something to do with [Lakers owner/executive] Jimmy Buss, I think." Jackson is hopeful that his protégé ends up in the right situation as head coach. "I think that Brian might have an opportunity but I just want it to be the right one for him," said Jackson. "The last conversation I had, I told him to make sure he doesn't end up in a no-win situation like Charlotte." Los Angeles Times For all that Jordan did for Jackson, he sure is a dick to MJ. For all we know Phil could just be a coach that has reaped the benefits of having two of the greatest players (MJ and Kobe) to ever play the game on the teams he has coached. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Proudiddy 10,699 Report post Posted June 14, 2013 As I said previously regarding Jackson... fug him. Most overrated coach in all of pro sports. Win with a team you built from the ground up, not one you were handed the keys to after they already compiled a team comprised of two or more hall of famers. Even more of a reason not to like him. And congrats on telling Shaw not to take our job b/c he's now going on two years of being passed over for a head coaching gig. fug both of them. MJ should completely and publicly poo all over Phillip for this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carolina-chuck 2,761 Report post Posted June 14, 2013 Well, he was right. Look at Dunlap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarolinaPanthers8789 4,525 Report post Posted June 14, 2013 I think Dunlap was our last option to be honest with you. I truly believe that besides Quinn Snyder and Dunlap, that everyone pulled out and we said that Dunlap was the best man for the job to save face. If we would have landed Shaw, Sloan, McMillan etc... I think no matter what they would have been retained for this year. Dunlap was hired to be fired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarolinaPanthers8789 4,525 Report post Posted June 14, 2013 DP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OchoNueve 158 Report post Posted June 14, 2013 For all that Jordan did for Jackson, he sure is a dick to MJ. For all we know Phil could just be a coach that has reaped the benefits of having two of the greatest players (MJ and Kobe) to ever play the game on the teams he has coached. Make it 3... Shaq Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carl Spackler 3,821 Report post Posted June 14, 2013 Think about it from their perspective though... No Charlotte coach has lasted more than a couple seasons, they've gotten a reputation for being cheap, they dismantled the ONLY playoff team in franchise history and they're still, at best, one of the four worst teams in the NBA. From Phil's perspective, I hate to say it but that does sound like a no-win situation if I have to give Brian Shaw advice. But still. fug him for saying it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheRed 20,739 Report post Posted June 14, 2013 Can you really blame him though given the circumstances with this franchise? The most notable thing the Bobcats have done in the last several years is change their name. It's not exactly the cushiest of jobs ya know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Moons Liver 506 Report post Posted June 14, 2013 I don't see any problem with him giving his honest advice. And frankly, he's right. Shaw is better off being an assistant on a good team than a HC on a terrible team- if he is patient he will be able to get a much better gig. You can't win if you don't have the players; we don't have the players and we don't have any history of being competently managed. Such is life for NBA bottomfeeders; Phil isn't going to go around lying to his friends about major career decisions because he "owes" Jordan anything. Keep adding talent, avoid bad contracts, improve the franchises reputation, and even if Clifford doesn't work out maybe we will be in a better position to attract top coaching talent next time around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TANTRIC-NINJA 2,666 Report post Posted June 14, 2013 So Jackson has the best players ever and did nothing but win more than any other coach...sure he is terrible. Jordan had what three titles before jackson come aboard? Shaq fu n Kobe were always winning...sure he came into ideal situations but Coach Phil made it happen sorry but not everyone has to start in no win situations to be validated by poorly informed message-boardites. Charlotte is a no win situation for the next two to three coaches. A guy like Shaw should wait when he is considered a top canidate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carl Spackler 3,821 Report post Posted June 14, 2013 I liked the Clifford hiring. Every great coach has to start somewhere. He also has a good resume. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thatlookseasy 607 Report post Posted June 14, 2013 I think Dunlap was our last option to be honest with you. I truly believe that besides Quinn Snyder and Dunlap, that everyone pulled out and we said that Dunlap was the best man for the job to save face. If we would have landed Shaw, Sloan, McMillan etc... I think no matter what they would have been retained for this year. Dunlap was hired to be fired. I think this is probably true, though if any of those guys lost the locker room like Dunlap did they would have been fired too. But there is also a reason the team had to settle for Dunlap last year- why would a proven NBA coach want to go coach a team whose front office was not interested in winning? It just doesnt look good on a resume Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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