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#1 carolina-chuck

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 12:08 AM

I've been thinking this scenario through for a while now which it's difficult to see happening, but I came along this:

 

http://www.hoopsrumo...rlotte-bobcats/

 

"The Bucks and Bobcats have engaged in discussions involving Milwaukee's 15th overall pick, says Amico." - Luke Adams

 

 

This lead me even more to believing that Cho may try to get back into the 1st round. I dont think this means that we'd be trading all the way back to Milwaukee's 15th pick at all. It looks like if anything does happen, it'd be more of a deal involving our player(s) or future picks (2014). Though, there's been numerous rumors that have said Milwaukee is very interested in Shane Larkin, and adding to the fact that they only have "1" pick in the 1st round. I don't know why they would want to trade that pick away.

 

Looking at mock drafts, some prospects that could be have at no.15 are: Steven Adams, Shabazz, Kelly Olynyk, Plumlee, Dieng, Tony Mitchell, Rudy Gobert, and Withey.

 

Assuming that McLemore is off the board: GOING BIGS!!!

 

Scenario 1
(1) Noel
(2) Olynyk / Plumlee

 

Scenario 2

(1) Len

(2) Plumlee

 

Mason Plumlee, 6'10" 235lbs Forward/Center Duke

 

Kelly Olynyk, 7'0" 234lbs Center Gonzaga

 

Imagine: 2014-2015 Charlotte Hornets
PG: Kemba
SG: Wiggins / Parker / Smart
SF: Kidd-Gilchrist / Taylor

PF: Noel / Biz
C  : Plumlee

 

or

 

PG: Kemba
SG: Wiggins / Parker / Smart
SF: Kidd-Gilchrist / Taylor

PF: Plumlee / Biz
C  : Alex Len

 

 



#2 CarolinaPanthers8789

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 12:24 AM

Yeah, the only thing makes sense is a player for pick trade.

 

Ben Gordon and his expiring contract for the 15th pick sounds interesting.

 

If it's a scenario where we are trading back, I'll take Larry Sanders and that 15th pick for our 4th pick.



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 12:31 AM

Yeah, the only thing makes sense is a player for pick trade.

 

Ben Gordon and his expiring contract for the 15th pick sounds interesting.

 

If it's a scenario where we are trading back, I'll take Larry Sanders and that 15th pick for our 4th pick.

 

I'd love to see it happen !!!

I dont see the possibility of Cho trading back 11 spots back. How realistic do you to think that an expiring Ben Gordon contract can be force Milwaukee to bite this deal?



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 12:35 AM

I'd love to see it happen !!!
I dont see the possibility of Cho trading back 11 spots back. How realistic do you to think that an expiring Ben Gordon contract can be force Milwaukee to bite this deal?



No idea, I read that they might not bring Redick back so they could obviously use a shooting guard if that's the case.

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 12:43 AM

No idea, I read that they might not bring Redick back so they could obviously use a shooting guard if that's the case.

 

Yea. Heard that Ellis is a free agent too?

Also been hearing that the Bucks may rather part way with Jennings instead of Ellis. Maybe, they'd like to clear some cap for a big FA run next year.



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:01 AM

There are rumors that the Bucks already have an offer sheet ready for Ellis...

 

My is guess that the only thing that would keep this deal from coming together is Milwaukee wanting more than just Gordon.

 

In the end, I could see a deal that sends Ben Gordon (expiring contract) and a future 2nd round pick to Milwaukee for the 15th pick.

 

It would actually be a pretty good trade for both sides because Milwaukee gets cap room for what looks like a solid free agent class next year and the Hornets get to keep building through the draft. On top of that, the Hornets wouldn't even be losing much cap room when it's all said and done because a 15th overall pick isn't going to make 11 million dollars.

 

There are also some really good prospects that could be available at 15... Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Michael Carter-Williams, Shane Larkin, Kelly Olynyk, Mason Plumlee, Rudy Gobert, and Gorgui Deng are all intriguing prospects that could be available at the 15th spot.



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 07:34 AM

I'd be cool with this, but we also have to figure out what's up with Hendo.  If we lose Hendo and Gorden, who plays SG?  I really hope we can get a fair contract signed with Hendoo.

 



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 03:48 PM

Just re-sign Hendo, or go balls out on Howard and Paul and either select McLemore at 4 (if he's there) or play Kemba at the two spot.

Dream big!!!

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 04:44 PM

Any chance it could be trade back this year, and swap picks and get their first next year?

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 09:59 PM

Why on earth do any of you think the Bucks would give us their 1st round pick and agree to pay Ben Gordon 13 Million to play basketball?.

Wouldn't they just keep their pick and sign another similarly talented SG for far less than $13M

Do you think any team would trade a first rounder and take Ben Gordon's contract when they could just keep their pick and sign Gerald Henderson for less than 10?

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:04 PM

Why on earth do any of you think the Bucks would give us their 1st round pick and agree to pay Ben Gordon 13 Million to play basketball?.

Wouldn't they just keep their pick and sign another similarly talented SG for far less than $13M

Do you think any team would trade a first rounder and take Ben Gordon's contract when they could just keep their pick and sign Gerald Henderson for less than 10?

 

I hope you know that Gordon has an upcoming expiring contract.



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:20 PM

Why on earth do any of you think the Bucks would give us their 1st round pick and agree to pay Ben Gordon 13 Million to play basketball?.

Wouldn't they just keep their pick and sign another similarly talented SG for far less than $13M

Do you think any team would trade a first rounder and take Ben Gordon's contract when they could just keep their pick and sign Gerald Henderson for less than 10?


The same reason we got a 1st rounder for Corey Maggette.... teams love those expiring contracts.

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:21 PM

I would cry if we drafted plumlee. Not tears of joy either

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:34 PM

The same reason we got a 1st rounder for Corey Maggette.... teams love those expiring contracts.


We paid 13 Million dollars for the first rounder we got for Maggette.
The Pistons gave us a first round pick for agreeing to take on the additional 13 Million dollars on Ben Gordon's contract.

My question is why would the Bucks give away a first round pick and acquire Gordon..... They don't currently have Gordon so why would they want to take on his contract?

In order for us to receive Milwaukees first round pick and for us to send them Ben Gordon, the bucks would send us a contract worse than Ben Gordon's or they would have no incentive to make trade.

I guess what I'm trying to say is this:
Currently the Bucks have Cap Space
Cap Space is better than an expiring contract
The Bucks don't need Gordon's expiring contract because they have cap space.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 01:00 AM

We paid 13 Million dollars for the first rounder we got for Maggette.
The Pistons gave us a first round pick for agreeing to take on the additional 13 Million dollars on Ben Gordon's contract.

My question is why would the Bucks give away a first round pick and acquire Gordon..... They don't currently have Gordon so why would they want to take on his contract?

In order for us to receive Milwaukees first round pick and for us to send them Ben Gordon, the bucks would send us a contract worse than Ben Gordon's or they would have no incentive to make trade.

I guess what I'm trying to say is this:
Currently the Bucks have Cap Space
Cap Space is better than an expiring contract
The Bucks don't need Gordon's expiring contract because they have cap space.


15 is a low pick. Milwaukee may not like anyone enough at that spot. A Ben Gordon contract could help them a lot next year in free agency. They're not looking to create something this offseason.


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