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#13 carolina-chuck

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 12:46 PM

cant see it happening.



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:19 PM

I really think that only the Lakers, Clippers, Hawks, and the Bobcats have a shot of landing both of these guys.

Lakers would have to amnesty Kobe in order to make room for CP3 (not gonna happen)

 

Clippers would need a sign and trade with Lakers in order to make room for Howard trading Bledsoe & Griffin or Jordan for Howard (this is feasible, but I don't see the Lakers trading Howard to their in-town rivals)

 

Hawks could make room, but would literally be cutting everyone on their roster and would have no chance to compete next year

 

Bobcats would have to trade expiring contract Ben Gordon, and Amnesty Tyrus Thomas.

 

I think the Bobcats are in the best financial position in the league to make it happen... odds are it won't though.



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:24 PM

how can you say...not gonna happen?  remember last season....Lakers landed CP3 in a settled trade until Stern stuck his big mouth in. 



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:37 PM

I really think that only the Lakers, Clippers, Hawks, and the Bobcats have a shot of landing both of these guys.

Lakers would have to amnesty Kobe in order to make room for CP3 (not gonna happen)

 

Clippers would need a sign and trade with Lakers in order to make room for Howard trading Bledsoe & Griffin or Jordan for Howard (this is feasible, but I don't see the Lakers trading Howard to their in-town rivals)

 

Hawks could make room, but would literally be cutting everyone on their roster and would have no chance to compete next year

 

Bobcats would have to trade expiring contract Ben Gordon, and Amnesty Tyrus Thomas.

 

I think the Bobcats are in the best financial position in the league to make it happen... odds are it won't though.

 

The Rockets could also make space for both guys. Off the looks of it they have $38 million in committed money, with the likes of Garcia, Delfino, Brooks, and a few other low earners. Those three guys if the Rockets take their team option would combine for $12 million. But they could cut them and free up some money. The other way they can make room for them is to trade Asik and Lin, both of whom will have quite a number of suitors. 

 

For the Rockets if they can trade Asik and Lin, and in turn sign D12 and CP3, then that would be an excellent swap. Would the Lakers and Clippers be interested in a trade and sign deal?



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 02:55 PM

It would obvious take some maneuvering around that starts with shipping Ben Gordan to Milwaukee for the 15th pick, amnestying Tyrus Thomas, and letting Mullens, McRoberts, Williams, and Henderson walk, a long with cutting Adrien.

If this all happens, the Hornets would have around $23 million in cap to sign Howard and Paul and to top 15 picks...

I can dream right?

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 03:50 PM

It would obvious take some maneuvering around that starts with shipping Ben Gordan to Milwaukee for the 15th pick, amnestying Tyrus Thomas, and letting Mullens, McRoberts, Williams, and Henderson walk, a long with cutting Adrien.

If this all happens, the Hornets would have around $23 million in cap to sign Howard and Paul and to top 15 picks...

I can dream right?

Let me know where I am wrong...

 

With everyone you mentioned off our books McRoberts, Henderson, Williams, Adrien, & Mullens

 

we would leave us at around $40.5 mil salary

 

Amnesty Tyrus Thomas... we are now at $31.9 mil salary

 

You can't trade Ben Gordon for the 15th pick straight up without receiving a bad contract back (Money has to work in NBA trades)... so I think the only scenario in which we got Howard and Paul would involve trading Ben Gordon for one of those guys.... for math sake, we will just knock Ben Gordon off of the books as if he was involved in a trade... leaving us at $18.5 mil

 

So at $18.5 mil... our roster consists of:

Ramon Sessions

MKG

Kemba

Biyombo

Brendan Haywood

Jeffrey Taylor

 

Sign Howard and Paul to Max deals... Howard ($20.5) Paul ($18.7)

 

After signing the big names we are at $57.7 milllion with a project $58.5 million salary cap and could only dole out mid level contracts.  I am also assuming that we would have to trade the #4 pick with Ben Gordon for either Paul or Howard in the trade scenario.

 

This is just rough numbers, but I think we actually have a chance of pulling it off... instead of the $23 mil to sign both guys like you said.



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 04:31 PM

Let me know where I am wrong...

 

With everyone you mentioned off our books McRoberts, Henderson, Williams, Adrien, & Mullens

 

we would leave us at around $40.5 mil salary

 

Amnesty Tyrus Thomas... we are now at $31.9 mil salary

 

You can't trade Ben Gordon for the 15th pick straight up without receiving a bad contract back (Money has to work in NBA trades)... so I think the only scenario in which we got Howard and Paul would involve trading Ben Gordon for one of those guys.... for math sake, we will just knock Ben Gordon off of the books as if he was involved in a trade... leaving us at $18.5 mil

 

So at $18.5 mil... our roster consists of:

Ramon Sessions

MKG

Kemba

Biyombo

Brendan Haywood

Jeffrey Taylor

 

Sign Howard and Paul to Max deals... Howard ($20.5) Paul ($18.7)

 

After signing the big names we are at $57.7 milllion with a project $58.5 million salary cap and could only dole out mid level contracts.  I am also assuming that we would have to trade the #4 pick with Ben Gordon for either Paul or Howard in the trade scenario.

 

This is just rough numbers, but I think we actually have a chance of pulling it off... instead of the $23 mil to sign both guys like you said.

 

Looks good to me.



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 04:34 PM

Let me know where I am wrong...

 

With everyone you mentioned off our books McRoberts, Henderson, Williams, Adrien, & Mullens

 

we would leave us at around $40.5 mil salary

 

Amnesty Tyrus Thomas... we are now at $31.9 mil salary

 

You can't trade Ben Gordon for the 15th pick straight up without receiving a bad contract back (Money has to work in NBA trades)... so I think the only scenario in which we got Howard and Paul would involve trading Ben Gordon for one of those guys.... for math sake, we will just knock Ben Gordon off of the books as if he was involved in a trade... leaving us at $18.5 mil

 

So at $18.5 mil... our roster consists of:

Ramon Sessions

MKG

Kemba

Biyombo

Brendan Haywood

Jeffrey Taylor

 

Sign Howard and Paul to Max deals... Howard ($20.5) Paul ($18.7)

 

After signing the big names we are at $57.7 milllion with a project $58.5 million salary cap and could only dole out mid level contracts.  I am also assuming that we would have to trade the #4 pick with Ben Gordon for either Paul or Howard in the trade scenario.

 

This is just rough numbers, but I think we actually have a chance of pulling it off... instead of the $23 mil to sign both guys like you said.

 

I wonder if there is a scenario where we could pull of a double sign and trade Henderson, Gordon, 4th overall pick for Paul and the 25th overall pick.



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 10:58 PM

Yea, Imagine:

 

PG: CP3 / Kemba / Sessions

SG: Caldwell-Pope

SF: Kidd-Gilchrist / Taylor

PF: Howard / Biz

C  : Alex Len / Haywood

 

or

 

PG: CP3 / Kemba / Sessions

SG: McLemore

SF: Kidd-Gilchrist / Taylor

PF: Plumlee / Biz

C  : Howard / Haywood
 

or

 

PG: CP3 / Kemba / Sessions

SG: Caldwell-Pope

SF: Kidd-Gilchrist / Taylor

PF: Howard / Biz

C  : Noel / Haywood

 

 



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 10:59 PM

Someone explain to me why both CP3 and Howard would come play here in a small market?



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:25 PM

Someone explain to me why both CP3 and Howard would come play here in a small market?


Being in a big market isn't everything for a lot of guys, especially for a guy like Chris who is from the area and is trying to raise a family. As far as Howard goes, we have two of his favorite coaches...

The question is, why would they both not want to come to Charlotte.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 01:36 PM

broussard is the only person reporting this, nothing to see here