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Nate Chandler Switching Sides

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So Genius tell me...  WHY we cannot have a upper Echelon group at Safety.  I want to HERE WHY not your lips flapping about how the sucked last year. 

 

this is an easily answerable question ...uh, because we don't have the talent for that

 

Keep your negative attitude, I will keep my positive attitude.  While your OPINION is that we cannot have upper echelon defensive backfield because we don't have a big name Safety.  I think you are wrong.

 

you keep getting hung up on this "negative/positive" dichotomy when that's never been the issue. The issue has always been declaring us instant contenders when we're not even out of June yet, and your overbearing personality in general on this forum. The Panthers can win this year if they come up with a good scheme and are blessed with the right amount of luck. But they will have to prove that they aren't the same old team they've been for years at this point, which means I've got to wait until September rolls around and actually see them put checks in the win column. But, by all means, continue double-fisting koolaid if that's what you think it takes just to have a positive outlook, skipper.

 

I THINK, I BELIEVE, our safeties are going to really excel because our entire defense is improved.  It doesn't matter that we don't have a big name back there.  It matters that you have the right people in the right place.  IE moving Godfrey to FS and getting some solid talent to compete for SS. 

 

Simply excelling is not what average or abysmal safeties do when they have a good front seven with them and don't get exposed. Truly good safeties will more often than not cover their zone or successfully eliminate the threat of a long completion when the pass rush is unsuccessful.

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Obviously he has along way to go.

Two things that make me think he MIGHT be different.

1. He was recruited and played offensively TE and T at UCLA. So he does have some college level experience. I am not sure what Shirley had so I cannot compare.

2. Matsko saw some potential while he was on the practice squad last year.

Those definitely aren't surefire attributes that will be the difference. But, just maybe we get lucky.

It is obvious, not that Gross is declining, we need to start looking for a solid LT. It would be a major coup if he is on our roster right now.

I'm pulling for him.

The thing is, it'd really suck to replace probably the best LT to ever played in a Panthers' uniform (Gross) with a DT converted OT. You want a solid OT, look for one in a stacked OT draft next year, or find one through FA. It'd be a Cinderella story if Chandler can make the transition, but likely won't be one.

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He is adored by Rivera.  Could just be a great guy to have on the team.  Why say something like "replacement for Gross" and place unreasonable expectations a player who very well may not even make the team..

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this is an easily answerable question ...uh, because we don't have the talent for that

 

 

you keep getting hung up on this "negative/positive" dichotomy when that's never been the issue. The issue has always been declaring us instant contenders when we're not even out of June yet, and your overbearing personality in general on this forum. The Panthers can win this year if they come up with a good scheme and are blessed with the right amount of luck. But they will have to prove that they aren't the same old team they've been for years at this point, which means I've got to wait until September rolls around and actually see them put checks in the win column. But, by all means, continue double-fisting koolaid if that's what you think it takes just to have a positive outlook, skipper.

 

 

Simply excelling is not what average or abysmal safeties do when they have a good front seven with them and don't get exposed. Truly good safeties will more often than not cover their zone or successfully eliminate the threat of a long completion when the pass rush is unsuccessful.

 

 You call it Koolaid wtfever and I call yours blantant pessimism. 

 

Declaring us instant contenders? We were a top 10 defense last year with as you would say with a talent strickened defense.  We have added huge pieces to that defense and to assume we will regress defensively is negative as you call my double-fisting koolaid postive attitude.  You continually are hung up on individual play and do not or will not consider the team as a whole.

 

You say no talent, I would agree in the past we didn't have the talent.  However the players we added I feel, as management does, that these players will fit what we will do.

 

I will concede you are correct about waiting until September to see.   But as a knowledgeable fan I feel with what we have added defensively our defensive backfield is going to be upper echelon.  That's My Opinion and your negativity attitude isn't going to change it. 

 

Why do you continue to make this a personal attack?  Cause you don't agree with me?  Then again I am not the only one you fire hateful, disrespectful comments to. 

 

Yeah I lash out at those that get pissy over reposting but name calling and insults are apart of it.   You cannot say the same.

 

Why your "Handle" insinuates insults right? Fresh Bastard altered to appease the mods.

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He was asked to move to OL. But yeah its basically because there's no room at DT. I read an article a while back that had Rivera talking about when they were scouting him. It said something to the affect, that Cal coaches moved him from Oline to Dline out of need and not because he wasn't good at the position. Also found it interesting that he was our emergency O-Linemen last season. He could possible be the same this year for the D-Line, if he makes the squad.

Interesting point (except he was at UCLA and not Cal, if I am not mistaken, but no biggie--probably were thinking about Rivera's alma mater) about the emergency lineman. He could be that for the DL as he learns OT.  There is nothing insignificant about a player who can possibly save a roster spot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Interesting point (except he was at UCLA and not Cal, if I am not mistaken, but no biggie--probably were thinking about Rivera's alma mater) about the emergency lineman. He could be that for the DL as he learns OT. There is nothing insignificant about a player who can possibly save a roster spot.

Yep its UCLA. Got ahead of myself.

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Posted this in the first thread.

"When we were looking at him last year, I called the people at UCLA, and they said the moved him to the defensive line out of necessity, not because he couldn't play offensive line," Rivera said. "Last year when we needed someone because of all our injuries, he was our emergency offensive tackle.

"All offseason, Coach (John) Matsko and Coach (Ray) Brown kept talking about him, and after we drafted a couple of defensive tackles, we realized this could be a great opportunity for the young man. He struggled a little bit today, but he's athletic and very powerful"

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Declaring us instant contenders? We were a top 10 defense last year with as you would say with a talent strickened defense. We have added huge pieces to that defense and to assume we will regress defensively is negative as you call my double-fisting koolaid postive attitude. You continually are hung up on individual play and do not or will not consider the team as a whole.

You say no talent, I would agree in the past we didn't have the talent. However the players we added I feel, as management does, that these players will fit what we will do.

I will concede you are correct about waiting until September to see. But as a knowledgeable fan I feel with what we have added defensively our defensive backfield is going to be upper echelon. That's My Opinion and your negativity attitude isn't going to change it.

Why do you continue to make this a personal attack? Cause you don't agree with me? Then again I am not the only one you fire hateful, disrespectful comments to.

Yeah I lash out at those that get pissy over reposting but name calling and insults are apart of it. You cannot say the same.

Why your "Handle" insinuates insults right? Fresh Bastard altered to appease the mods.

lol i'm sure if i named myself fresh bastard none of the mods would bat an eye since a lot more offensive poo gets showcased here. and i don't know what your problem is with people correcting you or calling repost on your threads that it sends you off the edge and makes you start mashing capslock but i find it funny that you rage at it. but besides that, you come off as some preachy know-it-all who really knows nothing at all, and i heat-seek that type of poster. so really the only thing that's going to happen in the future is me undermining you as long as you keep trying to oppress other forum users with your ill-informed opinion. either that or what i recommend is to log off and join thisboardrocks or some other panthers forum with a much lower average IQ, so that you'll fit right in.

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When I first read the title of this post, I thought we had another Jason Collins situation.

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I remember when davethepanther told us all that the Panthers wouldn't trade for a top receiving threat, and then after they traded for Greg Olsen, he wrote a long "I told you so" about how right he was...

 

 

ah, those were the days....

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