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#301 TheRed

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:50 PM

Overall, it was an exercise in patients.


Indeed.

#302 ThunderKatt

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:50 PM

Thanks, I forgot to change that part, it's been so long.

Fixed your gif
 

 



#303 Leeroy Jenkins PhD

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:53 PM

I am not reading the whole book, reference a few key points to prove your opinion.  

 

Dark side of individuals, wow that is really ugly.  I guess if you are using the moral aspects support would be considered the dark side.  It's funny how times have changed as have expectations.  Of course this is a different time but keep telling yourself it's ok to change the rules to make your lifestyle more comfortable. 

 

From a moral standpoint, nobody cares about your lifestyle and the reactions you need from others to live comfortable.  Morals can never be bent but they can and have been ignored.  Soon morals will completely phased out so people can do what they want and feel comfortable doing it.

 

Part 1 of this article describes an emergence from an unenlightened time in American society when mental health professionals deemed people who acted on feelings of same sex attraction “sick” and devised treatments to try and cure them. Ultimately, when political activists and the research community challenged the science and even the ethics of such methods, leading voices within the psychoanalytic community staunchly held on to unscientific views and fought against progressive voices. The results devastated countless lives, and though the psychoanalytic community has since joined the progressives, many individuals are still paying the price for this legacy of intolerance and intransigence. Extensive quotes from multiple sources are used throughout this article to demonstrate the prevalence and pervasiveness of such theories and practices in decades past. In Part 2, I provide the transcript of an extensive interview with a man who recalls the very damaging psychotherapeutic treatment he received over many years.



#304 ThunderKatt

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:53 PM

while youre at it, change the title under my tag name to something more appropriate, "King Dingo"..

 

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Fixed your gif
 

 



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:55 PM

What in the actual fug are you talking about? I never said slavery didn't have ramifications on how blacks were treated generations down the road. I pointed similarities between Robinson's struggle being one of the first African Americans to play baseball and the first openly gay player to play in the NFL.

 

I'm sure you could have come up with a better comparison than that. The Robinson story is about the descendents of slave owners' desire to re-enact or relive their ancestors legacy. Meaning, they wanted to kill Robinson to continue their fathers' tradition. Killing was their parents' tradition.

 

Racism is about descendents of caucasian wanting to relive their tradition but can't because of government protection. Thus it stops at just racism. Remove law and government, we'd have a genocide in our hand. If there were no law and government, many caucasians would still attempt to continue their parents tradition. Meaning, genocide.

 

Racism is not based on epithet or denial of opportunity. It changes into that because the actors can't perform any worse act. The KKK is not there to throw funny epithet at people. They want to kill and lynch every black person they can get their hand on and be proud of it. That's the business they're in.

 

Now, compare that to a person, of any race, whose fear is being ridiculed by his peers or fans if they announce their sexuality to the public. Not the same.

 

A simple analogy you might understand. The worst thing that could happen to Robinson without police protection was being hung by the neck on a tree branch. The worst thing that could happen to player X who announce that he is gay is a few ignorant fans calling him name. Not the same.



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:57 PM

There is no connection or similarity between race and homos...lol wtf... You can't choose your race. Can't believed that peoples mentalities... Ish is not cool.


Are u saying you "choose" your sexuality?

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:00 PM

Okay what you just pointed out that a group of people attacked another group of people because the attackers didn't agree with what the attackees were doing.  

 

Then you come with an interview you did with a victim and how the treatment changed the life.  None of that has anything to do with why the sky is blue nor does it give case studies from test completed to the mental capacity of heteor and gays at the same time.  The only way to come to a conclusion is running test and coming up with data based from the results.  

 

You didn't provide any data for me to sink my teeth in.  What you provided was only subjective and slanted to prove your points.  Just a mere ploy to glide under the radar.  i like the stealth moves but it's not going to work.

Part 1 of this article describes an emergence from an unenlightened time in American society when mental health professionals deemed people who acted on feelings of same sex attraction “sick” and devised treatments to try and cure them. Ultimately, when political activists and the research community challenged the science and even the ethics of such methods, leading voices within the psychoanalytic community staunchly held on to unscientific views and fought against progressive voices. The results devastated countless lives, and though the psychoanalytic community has since joined the progressives, many individuals are still paying the price for this legacy of intolerance and intransigence. Extensive quotes from multiple sources are used throughout this article to demonstrate the prevalence and pervasiveness of such theories and practices in decades past. In Part 2, I provide the transcript of an extensive interview with a man who recalls the very damaging psychotherapeutic treatment he received over many years.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:02 PM

Are u saying you "choose" your sexuality?

 

I guess he wakes up every day, drink a cup of coffee, and consciously decides not to put someones wiener in his mouth. Thats a helluva existence/



#309 jamos14

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:05 PM

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#310 MadHatter

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:06 PM

Not really.  Just people claiming that homosexuals should be classified as mentally retarded.

 

Agreed.

 

Anyone who thinks that homosexuals are mentally retarded or have a mental illness is definitely an idiot.

 

Having known many, I know that this is no choice....it is just how they are wired. 

 

They are no more ill for finding someone of the same sex as attractives as someone is for finding blondes attractive, burnette's attractive, asians attractive, caucasians attractive, african americans attractive, skinny people attractive, obese people attractive, etc....

 

It is just how you are wired and absolutely no one can explain why they are attracted to certain attributes or characteristics.

 

If you don't understand this....then you are truly a bigot.



#311 Jangler

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:07 PM

I guess he wakes up every day, drink a cup of coffee, and consciously decides not to put someones wiener in his mouth. Thats a helluva existence/

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I hate when that happens.



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:10 PM

I'm sure you could have come up with a better comparison than that. The Robinson story is about the descendents of slave owners' desire to re-enact or relive their ancestors legacy. Meaning, they wanted to kill Robinson to continue their fathers' tradition. Killing was their parents' tradition.

Racism is about descendents of caucasian wanting to relive their tradition but can't because of government protection. Thus it stops at just racism. Remove law and government, we'd have a genocide in our hand. If there were no law and government, many caucasians would still attempt to continue their parents tradition. Meaning, genocide.

Racism is not based on epithet or denial of opportunity. It changes into that because the actors can't perform any worse act. The KKK is not there to throw funny epithet at people. They want to kill and lynch every black person they can get their hand on and be proud of it. That's the business they're in.

Now, compare that to a person, of any race, whose fear is being ridiculed by his peers or fans if they announce their sexuality to the public. Not the same.

A simple analogy you might understand. The worst thing that could happen to Robinson without police protection was being hung by the neck on a tree branch. The worst thing that could happen to player X who announce that he is gay is a few ignorant fans calling him name. Not the same.


I know that you're not intentionally being dense but while homosexuals as a group were never enslaved, they most certainly have been victims of violence in a historical context. Hell even the KKK loves lynching them just as much as a black person.

I'm surely hoping that you aren't trying to make the case that the worst type of abuse that homosexuals have ever had to worry about is name calling. Because if you are then you're fuging retarded.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:11 PM

Okay what you just pointed out that a group of people attacked another group of people because the attackers didn't agree with what the attackees were doing.  

 

Then you come with an interview you did with a victim and how the treatment changed the life.  None of that has anything to do with why the sky is blue nor does it give case studies from test completed to the mental capacity of heteor and gays at the same time.  The only way to come to a conclusion is running test and coming up with data based from the results.  

 

You didn't provide any data for me to sink my teeth in.  What you provided was only subjective and slanted to prove your points.  Just a mere ploy to glide under the radar.  i like the stealth moves but it's not going to work.

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You want me to prove that homosexuality is not a psychopathology as you have stated. You showed me an article from the 90's claiming that there was controversy regarding the classification of homosexuality amongst medical professionals. 

 

I presented 3 articles claiming that homosexuality was wrongly identified as a mental disorder (psychopathology).  The book "The Psychoanalyst and the “Homosexual”: A Long, Dark Journey Into Light" outlines that for years, people had it wrong.  They considered homosexuality a disease or mental illness and they were wrong.  The next article talks about the diagnosis of homosexuality being taken out of the DSM.  It is no longer a diagnosable disorder.  The third article is a paper written in the basic sense of the first 2 articles.  I can find more.

 

Apparently, you are not even sure what you are arguing. 

 

All I would like you to do is admit you were talking out of your ass when you stated that homosexuality was a mental retardation.



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:12 PM

I'd bang Kuechley and Cam and let Fua watch with a ball gag in his mouth.

No homo.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:12 PM

I did, but not to back up "hate".

 

Well thats good.




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