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#316 Rhys

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:16 PM

I love the "chemical imbalance in their brain" this guy refers to. If only homosexuals could just squirt some chemical into their brains, then they'd be "cured" of their "retardation".

 

Guys, calm down, he has advanced degrees in chemistry and psychotherapy. 

 

I wonder what chemical imbalance causes bigotry, could you tell us?

 

 

 

 

 

 



#317 jamos14

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:16 PM

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#318 La Pantera

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:17 PM

You want me to prove that homosexuality is not a psychopathology as you have stated. You showed me an article from the 90's claiming that there was controversy regarding the classification of homosexuality amongst medical professionals.

I presented 3 articles claiming that homosexuality was wrongly identified as a mental disorder (psychopathology). The book "The Psychoanalyst and the “Homosexual”: A Long, Dark Journey Into Light" outlines that for years, people had it wrong. They considered homosexuality a disease or mental illness and they were wrong. The next article talks about the diagnosis of homosexuality being taken out of the DSM. It is no longer a diagnosable disorder. The third article is a paper written in the basic sense of the first 2 articles. I can find more.

Apparently, you are not even sure what you are arguing.

All I would like you to do is admit you were talking out of your ass when you stated that homosexuality was a mental retardation.



You know he will not admit he's wrong. He believes the crap he's spewing. I highly doubt he's read anything you've posted. And even if he did, I'm sure he'd come up with some off the wall argument as to why the research was wrong. You can't fix stupid...

#319 rodeo

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:20 PM

Just keep people's race out of this topic. I'm sure the Jews(who are caucasian) would feel insulted as well if you equate a topic about homosexuals to that of the holocaust. Irrespective to how similar the reaction of an outside group is. In fact, all negative reactions are similar so you can plug in any other example. Race is just not one.
 

 

Newsflash: Homosexuals were in the holocaust, too. In fact, after the war was over, the Allies allowed them to be sent back to concentration camps.



#320 TheRed

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:20 PM

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No offense, but you aren't required to read or post in this thread. Just saying.

#321 jamos14

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:22 PM

No offense, but you aren't required to read or post in this thread. Just saying.

 

None taken.  At this point I am just bored and attempting to troll.



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:22 PM

You know why it's not being diagnosed any more? It would open up the flood gates for everyone to file a disability claim.  Since there is no way to prove one way or the other, the government could go belly up.  That may be a stretch but as soon as someone has a condition you have more people looking to get paid for having that condition.

 

In order to keep order, it's best to brush it under the rug and hope that things clear themselves up.  Also in your so called articles there is no data backing up any facts.  I don't have to read it, because if the data was that, actual and factual, your fingers would start to bleed because you will type so dam fast to get it out and probably would use bold font to drive your points home.  But they aren't there and here we are.  Back to square one.



You want me to prove that homosexuality is not a psychopathology as you have stated. You showed me an article from the 90's claiming that there was controversy regarding the classification of homosexuality amongst medical professionals. 

 

I presented 3 articles claiming that homosexuality was wrongly identified as a mental disorder (psychopathology).  The book "The Psychoanalyst and the “Homosexual”: A Long, Dark Journey Into Light" outlines that for years, people had it wrong.  They considered homosexuality a disease or mental illness and they were wrong.  The next article talks about the diagnosis of homosexuality being taken out of the DSM.  It is no longer a diagnosable disorder.  The third article is a paper written in the basic sense of the first 2 articles.  I can find more.

 

Apparently, you are not even sure what you are arguing. 

 

All I would like you to do is admit you were talking out of your ass when you stated that homosexuality was a mental retardation.

http://media.photobu...deos&sort=1&o=4

 

 



#323 Leeroy Jenkins PhD

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:23 PM

Newsflash: Homosexuals were in the holocaust, too. In fact, after the war was over, the Allies allowed them to be sent back to concentration camps.

This is very true:

 

http://www.ushmm.org...duleId=10005261

 

Actually, certain North Carolina preachers are still trying to put homosexuals in concentration camps

http://www.thedailyb...tion-camps.html



#324 Jangler

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:25 PM

I always like these threads.

 

You can get the mind set of some and who is just being a devils advocate.

 

 



#325 YoungPanthers89

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:27 PM



#326 Leeroy Jenkins PhD

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:31 PM



You know why it's not being diagnosed any more? It would open up the flood gates for everyone to file a disability claim.  Since there is no way to prove one way or the other, the government could go belly up.  That may be a stretch but as soon as someone has a condition you have more people looking to get paid for having that condition.

 

In order to keep order, it's best to brush it under the rug and hope that things clear themselves up.  Also in your so called articles there is no data backing up any facts.  I don't have to read it, because if the data was that, actual and factual, your fingers would start to bleed because you will type so dam fast to get it out and probably would use bold font to drive your points home.  But they aren't there and here we are.  Back to square one.

http://media.photobu...deos&sort=1&o=4

 

What are you looking for?  an experiment showing that Homosexuality has a genetic basis?  Like a twin study perhaps proving a genetic link?  God I wish I had one of those.  Oh wait, there all over the damn internet.  Here:  http://link.springer...01541765#page-1

 

http://www.trinity.e...Hammer_1994.pdf    (This was even back in 1994!  When people were still undecided!

 

http://link.springer...8-9381-6#page-1

 

Maybe you are looking for a populations study?  http://link.springer...8-9386-1#page-1

 

 

Outline the kind of evidence I need to provide for you and it is available. 



#327 Leeroy Jenkins PhD

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:34 PM

I can't provide evidence that homosexuality is not mental retardation because no one would be dumb enough to propose a paper like that!!  It is an idiotic notion. 

 

Like saying please write a scientific paper explaining why a PTSD differs from abnormal hair growth.......



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:35 PM

I'm sure you could have come up with a better comparison than that. The Robinson story is about the descendents of slave owners' desire to re-enact or relive their ancestors legacy. Meaning, they wanted to kill Robinson to continue their fathers' tradition. Killing was their parents' tradition.

Racism is about descendents of caucasian wanting to relive their tradition but can't because of government protection. Thus it stops at just racism. Remove law and government, we'd have a genocide in our hand. If there were no law and government, many caucasians would still attempt to continue their parents tradition. Meaning, genocide.

Racism is not based on epithet or denial of opportunity. It changes into that because the actors can't perform any worse act. The KKK is not there to throw funny epithet at people. They want to kill and lynch every black person they can get their hand on and be proud of it. That's the business they're in.

Now, compare that to a person, of any race, whose fear is being ridiculed by his peers or fans if they announce their sexuality to the public. Not the same.

A simple analogy you might understand. The worst thing that could happen to Robinson without police protection was being hung by the neck on a tree branch. The worst thing that could happen to player X who announce that he is gay is a few ignorant fans calling him name. Not the same.


I don't even have time on my phone to go over how far off most of your statement is, but I'll leave you with this question.

You do realize gays have been murdered, lynched and dragged behind cars for being gay right??

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:38 PM

I know that you're not intentionally being dense but while homosexuals as a group were never enslaved, they most certainly have been victims of violence in a historical context. Hell even the KKK loves lynching them just as much as a black person.

I'm surely hoping that you aren't trying to make the case that the worst type of abuse that homosexuals have ever had to worry about is name calling. Because if you are then you're fuging retarded.

Dude, this is not mathematics. You can't remove slavery from your equation to equate the plight of Robinson with that of homosexuals. Your point lost credibility the second you exempt slavery.

 

Christians, muslims,  retards, handicaps, Asians, Caucasians, you name it, have all been victims of violence. Why not use them in your equation?

 

And you don't get the point, this is not about level of abuse or atrocity. Race and sexuality are two different things. Are you making the argument that if blacks are 'accepted' homosexuals should be accepted too?

 



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:44 PM

http://www.huffingto...l#slide=2538965

 

poll found generally broad acceptance of homosexuality in North America, Europe and much of Latin America, while Russia, much of Asia and predominately Muslim nations were more inclined to reject it.  Researchers found that a staggering 88 percent of participants in Spain felt that homosexuality should be accepted, followed by 87 percent in Germany, 80 percent in Canada and 60 percent in the United States. On the flip side, a mere two percent of Pakistani participants felt homosexuality should be accepted, followed by just one percent in Nigeria.

 

You people who don't accept homosexuality are obviously siding with the Muslims! This is 'Murica.  U can git out!!!!

 




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